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To: m87stme@mt*.ch*.se*
Subject: Re: Poseidon Jetstreams (Odins)
From: <Christina_Young@Wa*.Me*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Cc: JOHNCREA@de*.co*
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 18:29:06 EST
Sten,

Yes, I had thought about 1st stage reaction to pressure being drawn
by the second stage.  That is why I stated, "pressure not to exceed
170 psi".  When the IP is set at 170 psi, for instance, on the Odin,
does this mean that when pressure is drawn (resulting in an IP drop,
recognized by the feedback loop of the 1st stage), the IP *exceeds*
170 psi???  If this is so, then I would think to achieve a similar
result with either first stage while using a Cyklon 2nd stage, you
would need to set the IP using the true maximum, which would be:

IP to be set = (static IP) + (IP boost during draw).

I think this would compensate for John's statement that a Cyklon
2nd stage would be more prone to free flow if used with an Odin
first stage.

Comments?

Christina

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Sten Meyer <m87stme@mt*.ch*.se*> writes:

The diffrence, as I understand it, is that the hole from the "R" outlet
to the membrane chamber is larger (ca 5mm) in the Jetstream firststages.
The Cyklon (5000) first stage has a smaller (ca 2mm) hole. 

This hole is supposed to boost the IP when there is a large flow from the
"R" port. The Jetstream can be used on the Cyklon first stage "R" outlet
with marginaly reduced performance but the Cyklone may have problems
if fitted to a Jetstream "R" port. The reason for this is that the downflow
Cyklon my not be abel to close against the higher pressure put form the
Jetstream at the high flow.

When my Jetstream was serviced last vinter the HP-seat was changed. The 
current 
seat had an other diameter. This meant that the IP vs flow characteristics
of my first stage changed. Now the IP is steady when the main reg is purged.
With the old seat the IP rose with almost 2 bar when there was a high flow
from the "R" port.

So the short answer to your question is that there is more than IP that 
matters. Whith an electrical analogy you cold compare it to the internal
impedance in a battery. Even if the voltage is right when no current is
drawn it may change when current is drawn.

/Sten

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