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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:07:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Esat Atikkan <atikkan@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: Helium
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com

Suggest U undertsand what those papers say - just
citing them may is not enough.  Anesthetic effects of
N2 kick in much deeper than the cold feeling of
bretahing He.

As for MJB & his rantings, suggest U read the advise
of UHMS on diving while pregnant (such as the workshop
they published).  Indeed it is stated that, though not
condoned, diving past the 1st trimester of the
pregnancy is acceptable provided some very
conservative depth/time constaraints R adhered to.

Safe bubbles
Esat Atikkan

--- Randy Milak <milak@Di*.zz*.co*> wrote:
> Esat Atikkan wrote:
> > 
> > Oh boy someone reinventing physiol & physics
> again.
> > 
> > Anesthetic effect of N2 inhibiting 'feeling cold'.
> > Huh!
> > Suggest U read a bit about heat conduction before
> > pontificating w/ gradoise ideas.
> 
>     Hey Esat, I hate to interject when you're doing
> so well.  Aren't you
> the guy that just got properly corrected by Michael
> Black MD, resident
> you know what, for posting on rec.scuba that it was
> ok for a pregnant
> woman to dive as long as she didn't go past 60'?  
> 
>     I offer two suggestions.  One, try spelling
> words so that those of
> us who do not understand abbreviated hieroglyphics
> can understand what
> the hell you're writing.  Two, I suggest you may
> want to pontificate the
> following research papers about nitrogen inhibiting
> 'feeling cold',
> since it would appear you're mistaken.  Feel free to
> offer up your
> research that differs in this regard.
> 
> 
> 1. Mekjavic IB, Passias T, Sundberg CJ, Eiken O.
> School of Kinesiology,
> Simon Fraser University, BC, Canada. Perception of
> thermal comfort
> during narcosis. Undersea Hyperb Med 1994
> Mar;21(1):9-19 
> 
> 2.  Mekjavic IB, Savic SA, Eiken School of
> Kinesiology, Simon Fraser
> University, BC, Canada. Nitrogen narcosis attenuates
> shivering
> thermogenesis. O J Appl Physiol 1995 Jun;
> 78(6):2241-4 
> 
> 3.  Rogers WH, Moeller.  Effect of brief, repeated
> hyperbaric exposures
> on susceptibility to nitrogen narcosis. G Undersea
> Biomed Res 1989 May;
> 16(3):227-32
> 
> -- 
> Randy F. Milak 
> Windsor, Ontario
> ~Friends help you move; Real friends help you move
> bodies!~
> 

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