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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:12:03 -0500
Subject: Re: SV: Neoprene?
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ma*.ci*.co*>
To: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>, <trey@ne*.co*>,
     MHK
CC: aquanaut <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <quest@gu*.co*>
Ingemar-

The day I have to peel ice off my drysuit or stand it up like a statue is
the day I move to Florida...

   Jim
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> From: "Ingemar Lundgren" <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 11:27:22 +0100
> To: <trey@ne*.co*>, "MHK" <mhkane@pr*.ne*>
> Cc: "aquanaut" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, <quest@gu*.co*>
> Subject: SV: Neoprene?
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> The TLS works fine for cold water. I use it and have never had a problem
> with it. I have done dives in north Sweden with it where you go with a sn=
ow
> mobile for a mile on the ice and then cut a hole in the 1m thick ice. The
> temperature is about -30 Celsius and the biggest problem you have is when
> you spit in the mask it instantly freezes.  The TLS is great because (as
> some body else also pointed out)the ice just peels off. The Cf 200 gets
> stiff like a statue when it freezes on surface.  In ice diving you also h=
ave
> to have several layers of undergarment and that makes you very bulky so a
> non restrictive suit like the TLS helps.
> The drawback with the TLS is it's durability. I have had a suit flood wit=
h
> it back in a cave (5c cold water) and that sucked. The c-4 saved my life.=
..
> DUI has a new suit that looks really promising, the TLS 450 if i remember
> correctly. It's thicker than the TLS 350 but still seems pretty non
> restrictive. That's going to be my next suit.
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> As for undergarments use several layers and avoid cotton.  Fleece works w=
ell
> as well as wool.  You need to have a layer close to your skin that is goo=
d
> at transporting sweat away. As main undergarment i use the DUI G-400.
> Argon is a must.
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> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fr=E5n: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*]
> Skickat: den 17 mars 2000 02:33
> Till: MHK
> Kopia: aquanaut; quest@gu*.co*
> =C4mne: Re: Neoprene?
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> When I dove with you guys out there I added weight and blew the suit up
> more ( after the fist dive ), and that worked well, but you will have to
> ask the Swedish Brothers or Bott or somebody about real cold water. I'll
> try Seattle next and see how that goes.
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> MHK wrote:
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*>
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>>> They do not have the buoyancy problems, but they are cumbersome and
>>> heavy, and they do not hold together like you would think they should.
>>> They are salso restrictive.
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>> George,
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>> We all know what a cold water weenie you are :-)  but I'm curious since =
in
>> the rare occasions that I dive dry, I use the the DUI CF-200, I agree wi=
th
>> you about the lack of buoyancy problems, but I'm curious about your
>> experiences with the tri lam in seriously cold water.  I'm talking Great
>> Lake area and the like.
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>> Is argon and C4's enough???
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>> I've been using my CF-200 for years and haven't had any real problems wi=
th
>> it, but you are right it is a bit restricitive.
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>> Later
>>=20
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