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The TLS works fine for cold water. I use it and have never had a problem with it. I have done dives in north Sweden with it where you go with a snow mobile for a mile on the ice and then cut a hole in the 1m thick ice. The temperature is about -30 Celsius and the biggest problem you have is when you spit in the mask it instantly freezes. The TLS is great because (as some body else also pointed out)the ice just peels off. The Cf 200 gets stiff like a statue when it freezes on surface. In ice diving you also have to have several layers of undergarment and that makes you very bulky so a non restrictive suit like the TLS helps. The drawback with the TLS is it's durability. I have had a suit flood with it back in a cave (5c cold water) and that sucked. The c-4 saved my life.. DUI has a new suit that looks really promising, the TLS 450 if i remember correctly. It's thicker than the TLS 350 but still seems pretty non restrictive. That's going to be my next suit. As for undergarments use several layers and avoid cotton. Fleece works well as well as wool. You need to have a layer close to your skin that is good at transporting sweat away. As main undergarment i use the DUI G-400. Argon is a must. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Trey [mailto:trey@ne*.co*] Skickat: den 17 mars 2000 02:33 Till: MHK Kopia: aquanaut; quest@gu*.co* Ämne: Re: Neoprene? When I dove with you guys out there I added weight and blew the suit up more ( after the fist dive ), and that worked well, but you will have to ask the Swedish Brothers or Bott or somebody about real cold water. I'll try Seattle next and see how that goes. MHK wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Trey <trey@ne*.co*> > > > They do not have the buoyancy problems, but they are cumbersome and > > heavy, and they do not hold together like you would think they should. > > They are salso restrictive. > > George, > > We all know what a cold water weenie you are :-) but I'm curious since in > the rare occasions that I dive dry, I use the the DUI CF-200, I agree with > you about the lack of buoyancy problems, but I'm curious about your > experiences with the tri lam in seriously cold water. I'm talking Great > Lake area and the like. > > Is argon and C4's enough??? > > I've been using my CF-200 for years and haven't had any real problems with > it, but you are right it is a bit restricitive. > > Later > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: quest-unsubscribe@gu*.co* > For additional commands, e-mail: quest-help@gu*.co* -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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