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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 22:04:43 +1100
From: Christian Gerzner <christiang@pi*.co*.au*>
To: Joe West <Joe.West@Fu*.co*>,
     "'David.Applin'" ,
     "'techdiver Mail'" ,
     "'Scott'"
Subject: Re: Is there a thing like inofficial training?
I rarely quote a whole post, however, in this instance:

Joe West wrote:
 
> Actually, the PADI requirement for an instructor candidate to attend
> Instructor Candidate Course training (IDC) is 6 months certification and 60
> logged dives.
> 
> Before they can take the Instructor Examination (IE) the candidate must have
> been certified for 1 year and logged 100 dives.
> 
> And I quote directly from PADI's Standards and procedures, latest edition:
> 
> Instructor Development Course (IDC) Prerequisites
> To enroll in an IDC, an individual must:
> 1. Be certified as a PADI Assistant Instructor or PADI Divemaster or as a
> current instructor member with another recreational diver training
> organization.
> 2. Be at least 18 years of age.
> 3. Submit medical clearance for diving signed by a physician, attesting to
> fitness to dive. The medical clearance must be current within the
> previous 12 months. The physician signing the medical clearance cannot
> be the applicant.
> 4. Have been a certified diver for at least six months and have completed
> and logged at least 60 dives (as documented in the individual's log book.)
> Note: To attend an Instructor Examination (IE), the instructor candidate
> must have been a
> certified diver for at least 12 months and have at least 100 logged dives
> (exceptions may include
> PADI 5 Star Career Development Center candidates.)
> 
> How about we stick to the facts David.  There is enough PADI bashing going
> on around here (and rightfully so sometimes) without people spouting
> inaccurate information.  If you're not sure of something, don't repeat it
> unless you like making yourself look stupid.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Joe West
(snip)

Joe,

I quote directly from above:

> > Actually, the PADI requirement for an instructor candidate to attend
> > Instructor Candidate Course training (IDC) is 6 months certification and 60
> > logged dives.
> > 
> > Before they can take the Instructor Examination (IE) the candidate must have
> > been certified for 1 year and logged 100 dives.

Is this a contradiction in terms? Or is that "instructor candidate",
perhaps, able to acumulate the remaining dives and time during the
course? Hmmmmm?

Now let's go back to your very first statement yet again "the PADI
requirement for an instructor candidate to attend Instructor Candidate
Course training (IDC) is 6 months certification and 60 logged dives".

Does this include training dives? Forget it, we all know the answer to
that question. So, six dives per month including training dives and
that'll get this person up to speed as an Instructor? Really?

I know, I repeated myself, but the problems described above are in fact
different.

And these are the minima? How pathetic. The "Instructed" kid has no
clue, doesn't even know any better.

As for "medical clearance", do you mean from a properly accredited
hyperbaric physician? I rather doubt it. I seem to remember seeing a bit
of paper, as in tick the boxes, that "novices" INNOCENTLY give to their
own Doctor to complete. This Doctor (not her/his fault) is unlikely to
realise the significance of a PFO as just one example, leave alone think
of it.

Then again, I'm really interested in what you mean by "exceptions may
include PADI 5 Star Career Development Center candidates".

Why? Why exception?

I also not the word "exceptions_s_" in the above statement ... what
other exceptions? As implied?

Cynically yours,

Christian
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