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Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 13:08:23 +0100
To: trey@ne*.co*
From: Peter Fjelsten <fjelsten@ma*.do*.dk*>
Subject: Re: Reg Question for George...
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Den 16-03-00 06:34 -0500 skrev Trey (At 16-03-00 06:34 -0500 Trey wrote)...
>104's with helium do not contain anthing near 8 kg of gas - you just
>gave yourself away.

I was talking worst case scenario calculation based on air. I do not know how 
much the 104s contain but the twin 15L will hold 6000 free litres of gas. The 
'being barely positive in real life' was with a 27/35 tx in Danish salt water.

>I have to ADD weight to even get down in salt water
>with my 104's, TLS 350 with C_4, my light, and my ALUMINUM stage bottles
>and ALUMINUM backplate. What the hell ar you talking about.

Of course I add weight too (the light, steel BP, V-weight, 3 kgs on a weight 
belt). I also dive 2 alu deco bottles (7L).

My point was that you (detached from the rig) is positive and the rig is 
negative.

Therefore I find I interesting that you should aim for the rig being able to 
float ITSELF at the beginning of the dive and not YOU (who are stand-alone 
positive in your suit) COMBINED with the rig. Am I correct in understanding it 
thus?

This would mean a larger wing compared to if you should be able to float the 
rig AND you - or am I completely off?

>And I   have about zero body fat.

Neither have I - but I am more skinny than you (hell, who isn't :).

>BTW, the wing lifts quoted by Halcyon are not even close. Subtract about
>15 pounds from each.

This makes perfect sense. Why do they quote them wrong?

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