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104's with helium do not contain anthing near 8 kg of gas - you just gave yourself away. I have to ADD weight to even get down in salt water with my 104's, TLS 350 with C_4, my light, and my ALUMINUM stage bottles and ALUMINUM backplate. What the hell ar you talking about. And I have about zero body fat. BTW, the wing lifts quoted by Halcyon are not even close. Subtract about 15 pounds from each. Peter Fjelsten wrote: > > Den 15-03-00 13:41 -0500 skrev Trey (At 15-03-00 13:41 -0500 Trey wrote)... > >BC should lift your gear at the start of the dive without you in it, > >with out crowding you or approaching the limits of its size. If you have > >a balanced rig, that is not much actual lift. I use wings that have 45# > >of lift for steels and 35 for aluminums, and that is way overkill. > > I find this quite interesting! The rig weighs > Backplate 3 kgs > V-weight 3-5 kgs (depending on tank size) > Pro14 light 4 kg negative > Gas weight 5-8 kg (depending on tank size) > Tanks: 1-3 kg? (European steel) > Total (max): 24 kg negative > ... but I still the Explorer65 (when diving twin 15L) has to be completely full > for the rig not to sink. > > I _always_ clip my rig to the boat when coming up from a dive while getting out > of it for this reason. I wear 3 kgs on a weight belt and 400g insulation. > > My whole query is that the rig has only negative things on it (except the > wings) whereas you, in your suit, is very positive (when using V-weights, etc). > Is this the preferred way (I would hate to wear more lead on a weight belt!)? -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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