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Kevin, While that is a good one, the Dudes best stuff is the stuff he makes up Here it the URL I was referring to http://www.nwls.com/list-archive/reademail.asp?id=46301 Enjoy. Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Connell [mailto:kevin@nw*.co*] > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:24 AM > To: Steve Hogan > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: RE: Development of a techdiver lurker. > > > here's the direct url, it's ok to post these. > > http://www.nwls.com/list-archive/reademail.asp?id=46312 > > At 12:10 PM 2/22/2000 -0800, you wrote: > >Claus, > > > >good post. This makes me think back to some of the truly funny > >posts from Kevin Juergensen (the Dude) (Kevin, sorry if I > misspelled your > >name). > > > >For those of you that do not remember > >the Dude, he was a fixture (A welcome sense of humor) on > techdiver for > >a while but is now on the rebreather list. For a good laugh, search > >Kevin Connell's website on the rebreather list for some of > the dude's stuff > >(Kevin's site is not what will evoke the laughter as his > site is fully > >functional) > >FOr a good laugh check out the dude blaming Rich Pyle for > anything that goes > >bad > >on a rebreather..... > > > >I should probably check to see what some of his latest gems are..... > > > >later > > > >Steve > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Claus Lisberg [mailto:stclaus@ma*.st*.dk*] > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 3:45 AM > > > To: techdiver > > > Subject: Development of a techdiver lurker. > > > > > > > > > Having seen the coming-out-of-the-closet of the latest > generation of > > > lurkers/techdiver list newbies, I cannot help but comment on > > > what seems > > > to be the development cycles of said people, who I fondly > refer to by > > > their Latin name, Luorkius Strokeniur or "loser" for > short. Because of > > > the truly objective used during my investigations, I can with full > > > confidence say that the following is backed up by hard science and > > > practical experience. > > > > > > If you don't believe me, ask Bret Gilliam. Or the Doc on > crack, they > > > really know about these things and I see them as very valuable > > > individuals capable of discerning between mumble bumble > pseudo science > > > and the real thing with a delightful precision. > > > > > > At any rate, or in doc's case rates, here are the development > > > stages as > > > identified and found, in chronological order. > > > > > > 1. Awareness of TechDiver stage > > > During this initial phase, the loser is introduced to the > techdiver > > > list, either by other losers at higher developing stages, by > > > sheer luck > > > or by something akin to divine intervention. It is here we > > > will find the > > > first signs of personality traits such as arrogance and > pride taking > > > over, and the foremost thoughts in the mind of the loser > is "cool, I'm > > > gonna show these slapdick dudes just how it's done. My > caged doubles > > > look really techie, so they'll invite me into the old boys club > > > directly. If not, I'll step on their balls." > > > > > > 2. Initial correspondence > > > The second phase is the actual subscribing to the > techdiver list, also > > > referred to by losers as "being recognized as a great diver > > > in the eyes > > > of the unknowing". Quite basically it consists of a > subscribe message, > > > followed by an initial week of lurking and an attack of > anger as the > > > losers pride is hurt when it reads negative comments > regarding its new > > > and shiny Poseidon shower heads. But it is not until an > evil gang of > > > people in a gang named "DIR" start trashing the newly > > > acquired tech bcd > > > the loser really loses its temper. Typically as a result > of this, an > > > poorly spelled letter is sent with the main tenet being > "hey man, Ive > > > dived with this and i am not dead yett and you dont know what your > > > talking about. shut up - loser@ho*.co*". > > > > > > 3. An emerging split > > > For those losers who elegantly step over step 2, there is > still hope. > > > But undoubtedly they will be in a position similar to the > > > step 2 losers. > > > They'll read all responses and with a rather arrogant look on > > > their face > > > conclude "he who uses profanity first loses, nyah nyah nyah". > > > > > > 4. The actual split > > > Here, the step two losers start attacking the DIR system, > > > after learning > > > that it was not a gang name after all. When such attacks > prove futile > > > and embarrassing to the attackers, they move on to attack the DIR > > > proponents themselves - most notably George Irvine III. > The latter, > > > having a reputation as an uncompromising individual makes > sure in no > > > certain way that the attackers know his personal opinion > about them, > > > their diving style, their diving skills and explains in > lucid detail > > > just how closely related they are with other animal species. > > > Unlike the the step 2 losers, the losers who managed to > avoid step 2, > > > now formally "lurkers" have begun a painful journey of > realization. > > > Slowly they're learning that expensive gear must be > replaced and fond > > > practices abandoned. Still, at this stage they consider > DIR proponents > > > rude assholes and have some problems seeing through the way > > > the message > > > is delivered and reading the message itself. > > > > > > 5. The Big Step > > > During this phase, the losers/lurkers polarize. The losers, > > > inspired by > > > a fellow losers initial post, launch an additional offensive, > > > competent > > > that "stroke" is a compliment and that their knowledge > has increased > > > exponentially since their last attempt. Naturally, this is > > > not the case > > > and they are swiftly turned into chum. At this stage, some of > > > the losers > > > undergo a transformation and drop back to step 3, but > it's a rather > > > uncommon occurrence. > > > The lurkers at this point has realized that the DIR system > > > not only is a > > > good alternative, but probably the *best* alternative and > > > have secretly > > > begun replacing their gear. At this point in time, they > do not comment > > > greatly on their strokish past, nor do they say much to their non > > > lurking real life dive buddies, be they losers, lurkers > or just tech > > > diver list ignorants. > > > > > > 6. Final realization > > > Here the losers in a last desperate attempt to preserve an > > > already lost > > > dignity mumbles secret chants, hoping that ancient gods such > > > as Gilliam > > > shall come to their rescue, or alternative resort to the old Adolf > > > Hitler fascist name calling, before stating "hah, that showed > > > you!" or " > > > u r mean" and unsubscribing. Unfortunately, some of the > losers suffer > > > from a strange form of mental and physical amnesia, and are > > > translocated > > > back to stage 2 to go through the entire process again. > > > For the lurkers, there's been developing a growing irritation > > > regarding > > > the losers, and more than a few have started to get > pissed off when > > > these idiots due to their unfathomable lack of intelligence > > > fail to see > > > the obvious - dead people because of dumb people using idiotic > > > techniques/configurations. To these people, it becomes quite > > > tempting to > > > either try and educate losers or simply flame the hell > out of them. > > > Doubts about the DIR system have been removed by a > combination of real > > > life trial dives and polite and honest questions to the tech > > > diver list. > > > And it is from this position the lurker truly stands a chance of > > > developing as a diver, his or her animal heritage non > withstanding. > > > > > > Quite naturally, I exaggerate/polarize above and make gross > > > generalizations but I feel to some extent it's true - you > either wuss > > > out due to too thin skin or you sit back, shut the fuck up > > > and *learn*. > > > I made some comments initially myself about the way the > message was > > > delivered. Thankfully, I learned to cage my pride/ignorance > > > in time and > > > sit back and listen. > > > > > > The best advice for new lurkers is to control those > impulses to say > > > "George is mean" - to grow a thick skin on your nose. > > > > > > Hell, if you getup and jumpy about some messages on an > > > internet mailing > > > list, what the hell will happen to you when something > > > unforeseen happens > > > in a wreck in some deep, cold poor visibility waters? > > > > > > Sorry for the long rant. My dry suit (a very old ill > fitting membrane > > > one) gave up on me and therefore I am not diving on this > free day of > > > mine. And I won't till my new Otter suit arrives, which > pisses me off > > > almost as much as the losers. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > -- > > > (Santa) Claus Lisberg > > > http://www.geekcode.com > > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > > > Version: 4.02 > > > GCS dpu s:- a-- C+++ LU P L++ E W++ N+++ O? K? w- o- M-- > V- PS+ PE Y+ > > > PGP++ t+@ 5-- X++ R TV B++ D++ G++ e* h+ r* z* > > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > > > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > > > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > ---------------------------------- > Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*> > > NW Labor Systems, Inc > http://www.nwls.com > > Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest. > > ---------------------------------- > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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