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Steve, People that are more concerned with their perception of themselves, and how others see them, than they are with practicing the best form of diving, often have a problem with George and DIR in general. It would seem you are a good poster child for this. If you ever learn the value of human life, and how dangerous the "Doing it Wrong" crowd is to themselves and student divers, I can only hope you'll read all the DIR information all over again. You don't need to like George. You just need to understand what he has brought to diving, and how dangerous tek and cave diving would be without WKPP's contributions. Dan Volker -----Original Message----- From: Steve Orrell [mailto:subaq@be*.fr*.co*.uk*] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:56 AM To: trey@ne*.co* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Re: unflexible thinking Hi Trey, on 11:55 15/02/00 wrote, >Steve. DIR "dead in the water". Quite the opposite, and again, I ask you >to tell me what is the better way, and why, and tell me where the >principles I have outlined in any of these discussions do not apply >universally. As I've tried to touch on, the reason I was bullied myself into starting this fray was precisely because, imho, the DIR principals have something to offer everyone. My point being that the belligerence and posturing by the very proponents of the system are actively *preventing* more people listening and taking notice. The whole Dive Girl thing is about fun and, the way I see it, they reflected the ridicule that "DIR" has brought upon itself... that's the extent to which this has spread. Take the guy I mentioned yesterday, my friend, he was new to the Internet... but he'd sure heard about TechDiver's reputation and refused to even think about subscribing. He's switched on when it comes to diving, yet the things I mention to him, that I have picked up from this list, he listens to avidly... How many others have been driven away because they don't want the aggravation? >I will vehemently criticize the dangerous bullshit on here when it >appears, and have done so for years. OK, being objective, where's it got you? It takes a "diplomat", with an equal measure of skill in debate and coercion, to make lasting impact. >BTW, my tapes are absolutely hated by the real hardened strokes. I can well understand what you're saying. A closed mind is not the sole preserve of any walk of life. >Steve, how many people make up T shirts about you and discuss and worry >about you at every opportunity? How many do it about anyone in diving >but me? You don't get it - that means I am winning , and winning big. Aw, c'mon. How on earth can you twist the ridicule you're generating around to say you're winning? That really is perverse. >And by the way, your boys from the UK - the two Britsh kids that dove >with Stone - they may be the best you guys have to offer, but they could >not even follow our line <snip> Its the same thing with our Olympic athletes. The reason being that there is just not the facilities to build up the skill over here... but time and again we've shown that, on an equal playing field, our athletes are amongst the best in the world... but that's a different thread ;-) -- Steve... -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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