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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:45:53 -0800
From: Brian LoBue <blobue@ci*.co*>
To: "Michael J. Black" <mjblackmd@ya*.co*>
CC: Aquanaut Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Oxygen (the quick and dirty version)
Dude!  What a completely useless analogy.  There once was a guy named
Copernicus who had the idea that the sun is at rest at the center of the
universe.  His original theory had some inconsistancies and is not accepted
today as valid, but it provided a stepping stone for work by Newton and
others who more accurately descriped planetary motion.  Why this is valid
in regards to your post is that you seem to be a dyed in the wool Ptolemaic
who hopes that his shouts of "the earth is at the center of the universe!"
will be accepted by the group.  I'll break down the analysis:

The WKPP does extreme dives and pulls them off with a better track record
then anyone else.
The WKPP has decided that the NOAA model of oxygen tracking is not valid.
PERIOD.
They have procedures for dealing with tox and effective methods of avoiding
it.
They are doing the dives and gathering data which indicates that your
precious NOAA model is not a good one.
They may not have a "final answer", but they are showing that the NOAA
model is not valid and your reluctance to admit that shows that you are not
in this for the facts, as a scientist should be, but to prove you are
right.

You seem to have read and dogmatically accepted the NOAA model as immutable
and sacred or at least until NOAA revises the model for you.
You seem to be truly upset that someone could dare disagree with you.
You attempt to confuse the issue, which is "how to effectively deal with
oxygen exposure?", with rhetoric that would hardly fool a 12 year old.

Here is the deal.  If you want to be taken seriously you either do the
dives, collect the data, formulate a new model and reiterate the cycle and
improve your model, or get the WKPP data and show how they are wrong.  But
since they are not killing people or turning their divers into emphzemics
you will probably have to do the dives, etc...  Sound bites and cute but
inaccurate analogies will not help anyone deal with oxygen exposure.  Give
us some way to understand what reality tells us is happening, the WKPP
dives, or go some where else where people want to hear you expound on pony
bottles.

Brian

"Michael J. Black" wrote:

> The quick version:
>
> Mr. Hunsucker says it's not OK to speed with your car (exceed
> pO2 1.6), but it is OK to run stop signs (exceed 100% CNS clock, up
> to 20,000%).
>
> The dirty version:
>
> Your account is seriously past due, please pay immediately (WKPP
> divers are going to get hurt, and are lucky to have made it this far
> if you listen to Mr. Hunsucker).
>
> The safe version:
>
> Do not speed or run stop signs.  Both can get you hurt.  MJB

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