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Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 15:23:08 -0500
From: trey@ne*.co* (Trey)
To: Cheeburger Manoli <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
CC: S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N <silent@cu*.ne*>,
     Tech Diver
Subject: Re: wing failure
Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One in
a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like
this in the water. By the way , pick my wife up at the airport. I cut
some holes in the box so she can breathe.


Cheeburger Manoli wrote:
> 
> Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot.
> For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he
> you can find everywhere in Cyprus.
> 
> I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting  them since you are
sick
> on the head
> and dot try to give me a lecture about you being  Dir. Everyone can see from
> your
> words that you are another "ego diver "
> 
>   Any way who the f...
> told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using Scubapro D400
> with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings.
> 
> Not only you idiots are swearing at me for
> asking a simple question you  also started to put  words in my mouth now.
> 
> Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult each
other.
> 
> Manos
> 
> S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote:
> 
> > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit is the
> > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean with
> > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to undergarment as you
> > say.
> > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works just fine.
> > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they only need to
> > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a way to
> > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge (one of
> > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus), of course
> > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose.
> > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy decent regs
> > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap you are
> > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess what...there is no
> > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right equiment
> > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > THOMAS
> >
> > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since water is
> > > >quite warm here i  always
> > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't answer to
> > > >me  " get a Dry Suit "
> > >
> > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right answer.
> > >
> > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water.  5mm neoprene
> > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold water (say,
> > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so).
> > >
> > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are suitable for all
> > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal undergarments.
> > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as being
> > > specifically intended for warm water diving.
> > >
> > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and winch my
> > > >self up. Although it
> > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air consumption was at
> > > >its maximum.
> > >
> > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it also sounds
> > > like you are dangerously overweighted.  Given that you were wearing a 5mm
> > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg of lead at
> > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression at depth,
> > > this is perhaps not surprising.
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