I hate to waste my time with this crap, but the level of blind idiocy on here has reached a crecendo lately with regard to oxygen. Real simple: after about 12 minutes at 1.6 PPO2, the proteins that stud the membranes on the inner side ( gas side ) of the alveoli begin to "oxidize" - damaged and the membrane scarred - and loss of vital capacity begins. Any time you exceed the hemoglobin saturation curve for oxygen you are also doing extreme damage to all tissues of the body. If you even remotely believe in the action of free radicals, you need to recognize this. The data on this that was previously believed as to "time to saturation " is utter bullshit, and the time to damage is far less than ever before recognized. We ( WKPP) have fairly accurate ways of measuring this and have done so over a giant sample of man dive hours. We do not do weenie dives or bounce dives - we do the real thing with real deco, but we do not smoke ourselves with high PPO2's endlessly as is recommended by the agencies ,deco weenies and ohter endomorophic phobics. We break and break to the highest helium gas we can breath at the depth, and we count that legitimately as part of the deco for manhy very good reasons, not as time off. The problem ih tech diving is that idiots are teaching idiots, and morons are considered authorities. Thank God I run my show and do not have to even pay lip service to the stupidity that the rest of you ar held hostage to. Our divers ar not just divers, they are atheletes, not fat bearded slobs with pendulous guts who have not seen their dicks in years. We need to train and dive, and if you are injuring yourself with one or the other, you can not do both, and if you can not do both, you can not do either, and that is a fact. If anyone has any questions, ask Bill Mee. I have wasted enough time with this one. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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