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From: "Scott" <scottk@hc*.co*>
To: <trey@ne*.co*>, "Cheeburger Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
Cc: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>,
     "Tech Diver"
Subject: Re: wing failure
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 03:06:09 -0800
No coke, Petsi.

You should have warned us about the wife joke, Trey, now I have to clean my
desk. I bet Manos and her would get along great.

We call the D400 the "scrotum". Isn't that Greek as well?

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: "Trey" <trey@ne*.co*>
To: "Cheeburger Manoli" <manos@ma*.co*.cy*>
Cc: "S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N" <silent@cu*.ne*>; "Tech Diver"
<techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: wing failure


> Chee, the D 400? Geez you will admit to anything. That is an Air One in
> a box. Only the worst stroke , like Batman , would use something like
> this in the water. By the way , pick my wife up at the airport. I cut
> some holes in the box so she can breathe.
>
>
> Cheeburger Manoli wrote:
> >
> > Stroke call your Mother you stupid f... idiot.
> > For your information those tiny ones as you call them he he
> > you can find everywhere in Cyprus.
> >
> > I hate alu tanks and im not suprice you are suggesting  them since you
are sick
> > on the head
> > and dot try to give me a lecture about you being  Dir. Everyone can see
from
> > your
> > words that you are another "ego diver "
> >
> >   Any way who the f...
> > told you that im using sherwood or other crab regs ? Im using Scubapro
D400
> > with Mk20 and R380 with Mk20 Halcyon Hardplate and Wings.
> >
> > Not only you idiots are swearing at me for
> > asking a simple question you  also started to put  words in my mouth
now.
> >
> > Im starting to get sick of this List where you people love to insult
each other.
> >
> > Manos
> >
> > S I L E N T I M M E R S I O N wrote:
> >
> > > The strokes will never learn. But you are right here, the drysuit is
the
> > > best option to make his dives safer. We dive here in the Caribbean
with
> > > TLS350's and the water is 82F/28C. It all comes down to undergarment
as you
> > > say.
> > > We don't use argon but rather air to fill the suit and that works just
fine.
> > > That is something else the strokes forget, they think that they only
need to
> > > buy a drysuit...but actually you also need your small cylinder, a way
to
> > > attach it to your harnass or doubles, a regulator, pressure gauge (one
of
> > > those really tiny ones, probably not to easy to find on Cyprus), of
course
> > > an overpressure valve, and the proper length hose.
> > > Then you might want to sell your steel stages, buy alu40's, buy decent
regs
> > > for the stages not the crapy Sherwoods or whatever convoluted crap you
are
> > > using now and yes, it is all very expensive! And guess what...there is
no
> > > substitute for the right equipment. So you either have the right
equiment
> > > and dive or you have the bullshit equipment and die.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > THOMAS
> > >
> > > > >Im so much worried that i got no redundancy for my wings. Since
water is
> > > > >quite warm here i  always
> > > > >dive in a 5mm wet suit. So what's Dir in this case ? Pls don't
answer to
> > > > >me  " get a Dry Suit "
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, "get a dry suit" is quite probably the right answer.
> > > >
> > > > Manos, I don't know what you are calling "quite warm" water.  5mm
neoprene
> > > > wetsuit is suitable for what we in Texas consider fairly cold water
(say,
> > > > down to 65 F / 18 C or so).
> > > >
> > > > I am told by knowledgeable local divers that drysuits are suitable
for all
> > > > water temperatures, given only a careful choice of thermal
undergarments.
> > > > At least one company makes a drysuit that they advertise as being
> > > > specifically intended for warm water diving.
> > > >
> > > > >With empty wings at 35 meters i try to deploy a lift back and winch
my
> > > > >self up. Although it
> > > > >worked it proved to be physical demanding and my air consumption
was at
> > > > >its maximum.
> > > >
> > > > This sounds like a good emergency procedure rehearsal, but it also
sounds
> > > > like you are dangerously overweighted.  Given that you were wearing
a 5mm
> > > > neoprene wetsuit, that probably requires close to 20 lbs / 9 kg of
lead at
> > > > the surface, that had lost half its buoyancy due to compression at
depth,
> > > > this is perhaps not surprising.
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