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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:13:53 -0500
To: "Shimell, David (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>
CC: Ian PINKSTONE <ipinkstone@cc*.er*.co*.uk*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: I think I understand
Move up = shallower. You can do the 50% as if it were oxygen timewise,
and if you lose that you can do the backgas as if it were 50% and go to
the oxygen. What I am saying is do not extend the table because you have
the wrong gas - the upper deco steps can be screwed with unmercifully
without any real consiequnces, it is the deep ones that you must so
corectly.

I'll let you in on a little secret - you could do this dive and come
right to 20 in quick steps  , do 20 minues on oxygen and get out clean -
done it, and done al ot worse and gotten away with it. These are the
real measures you take in an emergency.

Shimell, David (shimell) wrote:
> 
> George
> 
> Most interesting stuff...
> 
> >In real life, you are btter off moving up and taking the gradient
> >offgassing as bubbles while still underwater than you are sucking on the
> >wrong gas and lengthening the stops,
> 
> Going pack to your suggested deco profile:
> 
> Profile 220' FOR 25
> 16/50, 50% and O2
> 
> DEPTH   TIME    GAS
> 160-120 1 MINUTE EACH ON BG
> 110     1
> 100     1
> 090     1
> 080     1
> 070     5       50/50
> 060     2
> 050     3
> 040     5
> 030     8
> 020     13      OXYGEN
> 20-0    8
> 
> I would like to better understand what you mean by "moving up".
> 
> Following a failure of the 50%, are you suggesting that you continue the deco
> as if 50% had been available i.e. follow the schedule but on BG.
> 
> Or are you saying that 16% is so worthless that you would skip the stops and
> go straight to O2 at 20', if so what kind of ascent would you do from 70' to
> 20' to give your system a chance to cope with the bubbles?
> 
> David Shimell
> Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*>
> Project Manager, IBM NUMA-Q, Sequent Computer Systems Limited,
> Weybridge Business Park, Addlestone Road, Weybridge, Surrey, KT15 2UF, UK
> registered in England and Wales under company number: 1999363, registered
> office as above
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   kirvine@sa*.ne* [SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent:   Thursday, January 06, 2000 4:48 PM
> To:     Ian PINKSTONE
> Cc:     techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject:        Re: I think I understand
> 
> Ian, these decos are so severely overstated that a loss of a gas is
> insignificant. I did a whole Wakulla deco on my 190 bottle right through
> 20 feet on a 30 minute bt at 300 and never got hit, using a schedule for
> switching. I kept screwing up the gas switch and not knowing it. I only
> found out when I got to 20 feet and my O2 was not there, and I then saw
> that my 120 and 70 bottle were both untouched, and that I was about out
> of gas on my 190 bottle. So much for deco.
> 
> In real life, you are btter off moving up and taking the gradient
> offgassing as bubbles while still underwater than you are sucking on the
> wrong gas and lengthening the stops, and in real life if you have
> anything approaching the deocompression time that you are suggesting
> here, you not only have support with extra gases available, you have
> buddies to share with. I just did a dive wher I shared the 70 bottle
> with my dive partner last Sunday, and it worked fine.
> 
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