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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 16:55:29 -0500
To: "Mcinnis, Don" <Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*>
CC: "'ben@wi*.co*'" <ben@wi*.co*>,
     "'techdiver@aquanaut.com'"
Subject: Re: Cave training
Don, ok, it is time to cut to the chase with this asshole. He is a
brokekdick sailboat bum who knows it all and wants to tell us how to do
it while not having the first clue about anything and not having the
wherewithall to play the game.

He is operating under one deluded piece of misinformationn after another
..

I correctly spotted this stroke on the first post, and have been proven
correct once again. This kind of crap is what ruins these lists, and I
will not sit here and let this jerk get in the way of anything further,
and would appreacitate it if the rest of you would quit accomodating
this loser.

Let's move on. There is no explaining anything to somebody who has no
basis with which to understand it. Delete is all this guy needs to hear.
He is a petty little snivelling punk.

Mcinnis, Don wrote:
> 
> Actually, I am not a cave diver and don't run in the same circles or league
> as George. His reputation and accomplishments d on their own, and therefore
> I won't even try to defend them especially to you. However I hope to someday
> compare in diving ability. As for listening to what he has to say, I will
> gladly since he as been there and done that. Whether you realize it or not,
> he gave you a valuable lesson in both life and diving: shut up long enough
> to listen to what others that know more than you do have to say and you just
> might learn something.
> 
>         Yours in flames,
>                 Don
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Wiseley [mailto:wiseleyb@ya*.co*]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:00 PM
> To: Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*
> Subject: Re: Cave training
> 
> Don,
> 
> As compared to what teaching style... the one where
> they fly down and leave after four days.  I'm sorry
> that I didn't buy an x military russian sub... set up
> boot camp... and buy a loud speaker... to teach diving
> 101... I guess that would have been better.
> 
> I'm just curious.  Do you have double seat belt
> harness, a crash helmet, and a roll bar in your car?
> If not you must be a "stroke" who'll be dead in a
> year.
> 
> This is pathetic... you're so spineless and afraid of
> the great leader George that you are practically
> groveling at his feet when you ask him a question.
> 
> I'm REALLY glad I'm out of whatever league you people
> seem to be in.
> 
> -ben
> 
> --- kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > Don, I can spot bullshit a mile away . I knew it.
> >
> > To answer your question, my instructor was Parker
> > Turner. At that point
> > he was no longer my instructor, obviously ( after 77
> > cave dives)
> > although he had only given me my card a few days
> > earlier, and the
> > accident had nothing to do with instruction - the
> > cave collapsed.
> >
> > It collapsed behind me, Bill Main, and Lamar
> > English, and in front of
> > him and Bill Gavin. Gavin got out of it due to his
> > extreme ability. I
> > would not have at the time.
> >
> > I took a relatively new cave diver in there the
> > other day, and thought
> > about that when we went throgh that spot. I am still
> > relieved every time
> > I get there and the entrance is not blocked. I still
> > will not dive where
> > McFadden got killed, nor will I go through the
> > restriction where
> > Sherwood got killed anymore, although I did that
> > with JJ in Feburary,
> > and JJ got stuck in the exact spot , and that
> > finsishd us off from ever
> > going through it again- we went out a diffrent way,
> > and I asked my guys
> > to cut the line out of that place so nobody else can
> > go through .
> >
> > Cave diving is not the big prize badge everyone
> > seems to think it is. I
> > know how bad it gets, and I get real hot when some
> > stroke pussy yaps at
> > me like a lapdog and wants to tell me how it needs
> > to be taught. It
> > needs to not be taught to strokes with attitudes.
> >
> > Mcinnis, Don wrote:
> > >
> > > < At 77 cave dives, my instuctor got killed >
> > >
> > > George,
> > >
> > >         Who was the instructor you are talking
> > about here. Believe me, I am
> > > not trying to knock you, I just really don't know
> > and am curious.
> > >
> > > <I really need some punk smartmouth pussy form
> > Boston telling me how the
> > > cow ate the cabbage. You should see what this
> > little shit wrote to me
> > > pivately. I should call his mother and have her
> > spank him.>
> > >
> > > By the way, offline from the mailing list your
> > little buddy informed me he
> > > was going to become a PADI instructor to help
> > finance his cruising lifestyle
> > > on his sailboat. I guess that's his way, teach 'em
> > and then sail away before
> > > they find out what he is all about.
> > >
> > >         Regards,
> > >         Don
> >
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> 
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