Actually, I am not a cave diver and don't run in the same circles or league
as George. His reputation and accomplishments d on their own, and therefore
I won't even try to defend them especially to you. However I hope to someday
compare in diving ability. As for listening to what he has to say, I will
gladly since he as been there and done that. Whether you realize it or not,
he gave you a valuable lesson in both life and diving: shut up long enough
to listen to what others that know more than you do have to say and you just
might learn something.

	Yours in flames,
		Don

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Wiseley [mailto:wiseleyb@ya*.co*]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 3:00 PM
To: Don.Mcinnis@in*.co*
Subject: Re: Cave training



Don,

As compared to what teaching style... the one where
they fly down and leave after four days.  I'm sorry
that I didn't buy an x military russian sub... set up
boot camp... and buy a loud speaker... to teach diving
101... I guess that would have been better.

I'm just curious.  Do you have double seat belt
harness, a crash helmet, and a roll bar in your car? 
If not you must be a "stroke" who'll be dead in a
year.

This is pathetic... you're so spineless and afraid of
the great leader George that you are practically
groveling at his feet when you ask him a question.  

I'm REALLY glad I'm out of whatever league you people
seem to be in.

-ben



--- kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> Don, I can spot bullshit a mile away . I knew it.
> 
> To answer your question, my instructor was Parker
> Turner. At that point
> he was no longer my instructor, obviously ( after 77
> cave dives)
> although he had only given me my card a few days
> earlier, and the
> accident had nothing to do with instruction - the
> cave collapsed. 
> 
> It collapsed behind me, Bill Main, and Lamar
> English, and in front of
> him and Bill Gavin. Gavin got out of it due to his
> extreme ability. I
> would not have at the time. 
> 
> I took a relatively new cave diver in there the
> other day, and thought
> about that when we went throgh that spot. I am still
> relieved every time
> I get there and the entrance is not blocked. I still
> will not dive where
> McFadden got killed, nor will I go through the
> restriction where
> Sherwood got killed anymore, although I did that
> with JJ in Feburary,
> and JJ got stuck in the exact spot , and that
> finsishd us off from ever
> going through it again- we went out a diffrent way,
> and I asked my guys
> to cut the line out of that place so nobody else can
> go through . 
> 
> Cave diving is not the big prize badge everyone
> seems to think it is. I
> know how bad it gets, and I get real hot when some
> stroke pussy yaps at
> me like a lapdog and wants to tell me how it needs
> to be taught. It
> needs to not be taught to strokes with attitudes.
> 
> Mcinnis, Don wrote:
> > 
> > < At 77 cave dives, my instuctor got killed >
> > 
> > George,
> > 
> >         Who was the instructor you are talking
> about here. Believe me, I am
> > not trying to knock you, I just really don't know
> and am curious.
> > 
> > <I really need some punk smartmouth pussy form
> Boston telling me how the
> > cow ate the cabbage. You should see what this
> little shit wrote to me
> > pivately. I should call his mother and have her
> spank him.>
> > 
> > By the way, offline from the mailing list your
> little buddy informed me he
> > was going to become a PADI instructor to help
> finance his cruising lifestyle
> > on his sailboat. I guess that's his way, teach 'em
> and then sail away before
> > they find out what he is all about.
> > 
> >         Regards,
> >         Don
> 
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