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Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:14:20 -0500
To: "Einar Hagen" <einar.hagen@un*.co*>
From: Ron & Lidia Thompson <rlthompson@xt*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Training standards (was: DUI rock....)
Cc: TechDiver@aquanaut.com
>Everybody in the diving community needs to be superman??

No, but they should at least have the skills to protect themselves. 
They need to be aware of the dangers and currently (IMHO) the mass 
market training agencies are not allowing people to make an informed 
decision as far as risk goes.


>
>Nope, the ones doing the red sea in a shorty for 30min to a
>max deep of 15 meters have different needs for level of
>training than George and JJ.

The two are still essentiaslly the same... the rec diver can just as 
easily drown at 15 meters as George can at 100+ meters. Frankly I'll 
bet on George surviving longer in any OOA situation. Divers need to 
have the essential skills needed to survive and they are not getting 
them anymore. The training standards have been watered down over the 
past 20-years to the point of laughable.

I have never figured out why Rescue is an advance course (that is 
other than the greed of  PADI/NAUI/SSI/etc). Those skills should be 
taught to every OW diver certified. The same with CPR and First Aid. 
Stop worrying about churning out three day divers at $99 each; create 
a comprehensive course and charge a fair amount for it. We don't need 
everyone to be Divemasters or Navy Seals, but we need to stop fooling 
ourselves about this being a safe sport. Golf is a safe sport, Bocci 
Ball is a safe sport..Scuba diving is a risk sport.

I am so tired of dumbing down everything to the lowest skill level.. 
that goes for diving, education, safety regs and much more. The only 
way to have a superior skill level is to challenge individuals. Let 
people rise to their highest level not drag everyone down to the 
lowest.


>
>If these divers later on wants to do cave, Brittanic or the likes,
>they need more training. They do not need everything at once.
>

Of course further training is needed for these obviously advance 
dives.. but every OW diver should be taught to understand that a 
required deco stop is more important than getting on a boat with 500 
psi in their tank. (and yes, I've seen a recreational diver hit 
required deco by not paying attention and then blow off the stop 
because a DM said everyone MUST be aboard with 500psi.)

We need to wake the agencies up and insist they do right by their 
students. Start teaching them the skills they need to save themselves 
and others when the shit hits the fan. For god sakes at least make 
sure they can swim a reasonable distance.

Diving is not and should not be for everyone. The undersea world is 
beautiful, but it is also unforgiving. We owe it to new divers that 
they know and respect that fact. We also need to insure they have the 
skills to have a fighting chance if they run into trouble.

If you can't see that, then you are part of the problem.

Ron

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