So what you're saying is that having a few hundred divers die because the
training given them by you or PADI is all right, as long as you can get the
money out of them before hand. Diving is not a sport for everyone and has
never been intended to be that. Justifying the position that it is all right
to gamble with someone else's life is all right since if you didn't do it,
someone else belonging to some other agency would is assinine and
unforgiveable. I wonder if your attitude would change if you were held
responsible (by criminal charges) for any injuries or fatalities occuring to
your students as a result of your curriculum. Just something to think about.

	Don


-----Original Message-----
From: Einar Hagen [mailto:einar.hagen@un*.co*]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 6:11 AM
To: Bob Sherwood; Andrew
Cc: Techdiver
Subject: Training standards (was: DUI rock....)


Everybody in the diving community needs to be superman??

Nope, the ones doing the red sea in a shorty for 30min to a
max deep of 15 meters have different needs for level of
training than George and JJ.

If these divers later on wants to do cave, Brittanic or the likes,
they need more training. They do not need everything at once.


Einar

> Einar
>   And here in lies the problem.  You are admitting that you will
compromise
> and certify people that are not good diving candidates and have taken the
> diving is for everyone approach.  It is not!!!  That is why the diving
gene
> pool is so scary and leaves so few who continue to dive. Probably the
> biggest reason for the 90% + diver dropout rate is the compromised
training
> and I'LL PASS YOU EVEN THOUGH YOUR SKILLS ARE SUBSTANDARD.  We need to
> raised the training bar not lower it.    Bob
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Einar Hagen <einar.hagen@un*.co*>
> To: Andrew <andrewg@fi*.co*>
> Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Monday, January 03, 2000 3:02 AM
> Subject: Re: DUI rock boots and other PADI stuff
>
>
> >Somebody has to market diving for the public, and the general
> >public is not ready to commit to exellence, they have not the
> >time, money or interest to do that and we as diving pros have two
> >options as i see it, either say; sorry diving is not for anyone but the
> >macho, dedicated, wannabe-a-stardiver with lots of time and money,
> >or compromise. I feel the latter is ok,

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