Einar,

It would be nice if certified advanced divers could clear their masks, or
control their buoyancy or perhaps understand a simple set of < arguably
bullshit> tables.

I see a lot of people on the charter boat I mate. A fair number of them dont
have a good idea on what their doing. This scares them. Some survive to get a
handle on things, a far greater number quit, because they dont want to
die.Their skills deficiencies lead them to perceive simple ow diving to be a
life or death struggle. It shouldnt be that way. Im not saying every ow diver
needs to be perfect, but a lot of people are getting shortsheeted in the
knowledge dept and it drives them right out of the game.

WE used to have maybe 30 diveshops on long island, just five years ago, now we
have maybe 15. where are the divers going???

Regards,

Al Marvelli   < five, yes five PADI cards before he figured it out>

Einar Hagen wrote:

> Everybody in the diving community needs to be superman??
>
> Nope, the ones doing the red sea in a shorty for 30min to a
> max deep of 15 meters have different needs for level of
> training than George and JJ.
>
> If these divers later on wants to do cave, Brittanic or the likes,
> they need more training. They do not need everything at once.
>
> Einar
>
> > Einar
> >   And here in lies the problem.  You are admitting that you will
> compromise
> > and certify people that are not good diving candidates and have taken the
> > diving is for everyone approach.  It is not!!!  That is why the diving
> gene
> > pool is so scary and leaves so few who continue to dive. Probably the
> > biggest reason for the 90% + diver dropout rate is the compromised
> training
> > and I'LL PASS YOU EVEN THOUGH YOUR SKILLS ARE SUBSTANDARD.  We need to
> > raised the training bar not lower it.    Bob
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Einar Hagen <einar.hagen@un*.co*>
> > To: Andrew <andrewg@fi*.co*>
> > Cc: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> > Date: Monday, January 03, 2000 3:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: DUI rock boots and other PADI stuff
> >
> >
> > >Somebody has to market diving for the public, and the general
> > >public is not ready to commit to exellence, they have not the
> > >time, money or interest to do that and we as diving pros have two
> > >options as i see it, either say; sorry diving is not for anyone but the
> > >macho, dedicated, wannabe-a-stardiver with lots of time and money,
> > >or compromise. I feel the latter is ok,
>
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