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From: "David B. Widen" <dwiden@ho*.co*>
To: "'Capt JT'" <captjt@mi*.co*>, <kirvine@sa*.ne*>,
     "'Marcin Piekarski'"
Cc: "'nforcer1'" <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>,
     "'Techdiver'"
Subject: RE: Who is nforcer1??
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:24:31 -0500
JT

One of the steps that we all do is the connecting and testing of the dry
suit inflation. After diving with you many times, I know you tend to do it
in there before step 5.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Capt JT [mailto:captjt@mi*.co*]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 12:10 PM
> To: kirvine@sa*.ne*; Marcin Piekarski
> Cc: nforcer1; Techdiver
> Subject: Re: Who is nforcer1??
>
>
> As I read this, the memory of Tony Smith came to mind.Just
> when we began to
> think we are so good, the basics will kill us.The entry,
> decent ,ascent,
> are the parts of the dive that  will most likely kill you,
> the bottom part
> of the dive is really the safe part to me.Below is list of
> things I do.I am
> open for comments that can help, I am always willing  to listen.
>
> 1) DO NOT be in a hurry gearing up
> 2)once seated in full gear just set and relax a second
> 3) take a breath off of each reg do not keep it in your mouth
> if it is a
> hypoxic mix
> 4)Check pressure gauge, if lower than at start the valve is not open
> (I like to open my valves while seated and geared up, proves
> to myself that
> I can do it)
> NO ONE touches my valves but ME
> 5)Drink water and relax a second
> 6)check everything before you stand
> 7)If there is a current use a travel mix( when using a hypoxic mix)
> 8)if not a hypoxic mix use back gas, avoid using travel mix
> when possible,
> it will just give you something else you have to deal with
> and can do wrong
> 9)Put the reg. in your mouth just before you jump in
> 10) make it to the down line and stop -relax a second
> 11)look at the safety diver or buddy exchange OK
> 12) when you make it to the bottom pause for a moment and
> collect yourself
> , look at your surroundings and make assessments.
>
>   At 08:22 AM 12/26/99 -0500, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> >Marcin, whatever the case, you have to be able to get to
> those valves,
> >or to get the tanks lose enough to get to them. This is not
> so much in
> >the case of a failure, but in the case where you fail to turn them on
> >and get into the water.
> >
> >I got so distracted the other day that I almost jumped in
> the ocean with
> >my backup reg behind me, and my primary reg jammed under my
> waistbelt. I
> >would not have been able to get to any gas other than my "third reg"
> >which is my inflator hose. If the valves were off, and I
> never checked,
> >it might have been a real trick figuring that one out before
> my eardrums
> >broke.
> >
> >I do not mind drowning, but I would have hated to screw up
> in front of
> >an audience. The only reason I even noticed that I had no
> regs is that I
> >sat on one of them and it went off.
> >
> >To top it off, none of the people on the boat even noticed
> any of this.
> >I would have had to drop down, flip my tanks off and put them back on
> >out of sight to save face, but my dive partner would have
> freaked, even
> >assuming that I did not try every other solution first and
> then not be
> >able to do it .
> >
> >It just reminded me of how close we can get to as screwup
> with the wrong
> >gear.
> >
> >Work out that insulation and knob thing with the minimunm solution.
> >
> >Marcin Piekarski wrote:
> > >
> > > Healthy critics is not the thing that can kill me but
> stupidity is the
> > > one. So thanks for straightening me up, on this. While
> writing to this
> > > group I knew that there might be flames and someone might
> say "no man,
> > > it's really stupid", and OK, if so. If something is
> stupid then I want
> > > to learn new better ways on doing it and stand with my
> head high while
> > > admitting that this stupidity comes from my lack of
> knowledge, for now.
> > >
> > > nforcer1 wrote:
> > >
> > > > (Note to Marcin: please don't take any of this as criticism of
> > you.  For all
> > > > any of us know, you might be in great shape, configured
> well and can
> > reach the
> > > > knobs with room to spare. Just asking the question
> makes you a great
> > candidate
> > > > for avoiding being the bad guy under Rules 1 and 2.
> Follow steps
> > 1-4, above,
> > > > and it will all fall in place for you.)
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > PAlexakos@ao*.co* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 12/23/1999 6:30:24 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > > > > nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co* writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > << I'm not sure it matters, but I'll be glad to when I have a
> > little more
> > > > > time.  I
> > > > >  didn't know a resume was required to state the
> obvious on a point
> > I think
> > > > > most
> > > > >  of us agree upon. >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure,
> > > > >
> > > > >     But when you are a tough guy, ready to suggest
> who is ready to
> > dive or
> > > > > not, we are all interested what your qualifications are.
> > > > >
> > > > > Panos
> > > >
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