>
>    Let me ask you - in the other post - do you guys use the dry suit
>hose with the flared fitting, and can you get that one on and off with
>gloves?  I use it just to be able to get it off faster in a runaway.

Just became aware of that hose this year, works very well.It came on a pc. 
of new gear in the shop and I got it for test purposes :) Does it have a 
proper name? I have also found that all standard hoses are not the same, 
one hose would work then another not, all were standard hoses, did I get a 
bad set or is it something else?



>Capt JT wrote:
> >
> > At 03:53 PM 12/26/99 -0500, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > >JT, the biggie in your list is "nobody touches my valves but me". Also
> > >in that one was the pressure guage check. If you breath the reg while
> > >watching it, you will notice it waver if you are not turned all the way
> > >on . This will alert you to a problem when you get to depth, which is
> > >that the reg will not develop enough intermediate pressure to breathe,
> > >and you will think you lost your gas since you just checked and it
> > >worked on the way down . Actaully , the only real way to get tho that
> > >screwup is to violate the "only I touch the valves " rule. The DM's tend
> > >to like to turn them off and then back on a 1/4 turn, thinking they are
> > >doing the opposite. The 1/4 turn thing is right up there with the word
> > >"octopus" applied to a regulator.
> >
> > I have not had that happen to me yet, with the valve not being open all the
> > way.You are dead right about the DM turning the valves the wrong way. Had
> > one shut my isolator valve once and I caught him.You can bet your ass he'll
> > never do that again.Also with the gauges, the deeper dives causes to much
> > pressure on the cheap ones, I believe the face will press in and the needle
> > will not move, had that happen to a diver on a deep dive last year.He
> > noticed the pressure gauge had not gone down at all during the decent to
> > 300ft.Have you guys had this problem, I am wondering as I saw you post that
> > you did not ck your pressure once into the dive or did I miss read that.
> >
> > >Capt JT wrote:
> > > >
> > > > As I read this, the memory of Tony Smith came to mind.Just when we 
> began to
> > > > think we are so good, the basics will kill us.The entry, decent 
> ,ascent,
> > > > are the parts of the dive that  will most likely kill you, the 
> bottom part
> > > > of the dive is really the safe part to me.Below is list of things I 
> do.I am
> > > > open for comments that can help, I am always willing  to listen.
> > > >
> > > > 1) DO NOT be in a hurry gearing up
> > > > 2)once seated in full gear just set and relax a second
> > > > 3) take a breath off of each reg do not keep it in your mouth if it 
> is a
> > > > hypoxic mix
> > > > 4)Check pressure gauge, if lower than at start the valve is not open
> > > > (I like to open my valves while seated and geared up, proves to 
> myself that
> > > > I can do it)
> > > > NO ONE touches my valves but ME
> > > > 5)Drink water and relax a second
> > > > 6)check everything before you stand
> > > > 7)If there is a current use a travel mix( when using a hypoxic mix)
> > > > 8)if not a hypoxic mix use back gas, avoid using travel mix when 
> possible,
> > > > it will just give you something else you have to deal with and can 
> do wrong
> > > > 9)Put the reg. in your mouth just before you jump in
> > > > 10) make it to the down line and stop -relax a second
> > > > 11)look at the safety diver or buddy exchange OK
> > > > 12) when you make it to the bottom pause for a moment and collect 
> yourself
> > > > , look at your surroundings and make assessments.
> > > >
> > > >   At 08:22 AM 12/26/99 -0500, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > > > >Marcin, whatever the case, you have to be able to get to those valves,
> > > > >or to get the tanks lose enough to get to them. This is not so much in
> > > > >the case of a failure, but in the case where you fail to turn them on
> > > > >and get into the water.
> > > > >
> > > > >I got so distracted the other day that I almost jumped in the 
> ocean with
> > > > >my backup reg behind me, and my primary reg jammed under my 
> waistbelt. I
> > > > >would not have been able to get to any gas other than my "third reg"
> > > > >which is my inflator hose. If the valves were off, and I never 
> checked,
> > > > >it might have been a real trick figuring that one out before my 
> eardrums
> > > > >broke.
> > > > >
> > > > >I do not mind drowning, but I would have hated to screw up in front of
> > > > >an audience. The only reason I even noticed that I had no regs is 
> that I
> > > > >sat on one of them and it went off.
> > > > >
> > > > >To top it off, none of the people on the boat even noticed any of 
> this.
> > > > >I would have had to drop down, flip my tanks off and put them back on
> > > > >out of sight to save face, but my dive partner would have freaked, 
> even
> > > > >assuming that I did not try every other solution first and then not be
> > > > >able to do it .
> > > > >
> > > > >It just reminded me of how close we can get to as screwup with the 
> wrong
> > > > >gear.
> > > > >
> > > > >Work out that insulation and knob thing with the minimunm solution.
> > > > >
> > > > >Marcin Piekarski wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Healthy critics is not the thing that can kill me but stupidity 
> is the
> > > > > > one. So thanks for straightening me up, on this. While writing 
> to this
> > > > > > group I knew that there might be flames and someone might say 
> "no man,
> > > > > > it's really stupid", and OK, if so. If something is stupid then 
> I want
> > > > > > to learn new better ways on doing it and stand with my head 
> high while
> > > > > > admitting that this stupidity comes from my lack of knowledge, 
> for now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nforcer1 wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > (Note to Marcin: please don't take any of this as criticism of
> > > > > you.  For all
> > > > > > > any of us know, you might be in great shape, configured well 
> and can
> > > > > reach the
> > > > > > > knobs with room to spare. Just asking the question makes you 
> a great
> > > > > candidate
> > > > > > > for avoiding being the bad guy under Rules 1 and 2.  Follow steps
> > > > > 1-4, above,
> > > > > > > and it will all fall in place for you.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > PAlexakos@ao*.co* wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/23/1999 6:30:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > > > > > nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co* writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > << I'm not sure it matters, but I'll be glad to when I
have a
> > > > > little more
> > > > > > > > time.  I
> > > > > > > >  didn't know a resume was required to state the obvious on 
> a point
> > > > > I think
> > > > > > > > most
> > > > > > > >  of us agree upon. >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sure,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >     But when you are a tough guy, ready to suggest who is 
> ready to
> > > > > dive or
> > > > > > > > not, we are all interested what your qualifications are.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Panos
> > > > > > >
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