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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 08:22:10 -0500
To: Marcin Piekarski <piekars@in*.co*.pl*>
CC: nforcer1 <nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co*>, Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Who is nforcer1??
Marcin, whatever the case, you have to be able to get to those valves,
or to get the tanks lose enough to get to them. This is not so much in
the case of a failure, but in the case where you fail to turn them on
and get into the water. 

I got so distracted the other day that I almost jumped in the ocean with
my backup reg behind me, and my primary reg jammed under my waistbelt. I
would not have been able to get to any gas other than my "third reg"
which is my inflator hose. If the valves were off, and I never checked,
it might have been a real trick figuring that one out before my eardrums
broke.

I do not mind drowning, but I would have hated to screw up in front of
an audience. The only reason I even noticed that I had no regs is that I
sat on one of them and it went off. 

To top it off, none of the people on the boat even noticed any of this.
I would have had to drop down, flip my tanks off and put them back on
out of sight to save face, but my dive partner would have freaked, even
assuming that I did not try every other solution first and then not be
able to do it .

It just reminded me of how close we can get to as screwup with the wrong
gear.

Work out that insulation and knob thing with the minimunm solution.

Marcin Piekarski wrote:
> 
> Healthy critics is not the thing that can kill me but stupidity is the
> one. So thanks for straightening me up, on this. While writing to this
> group I knew that there might be flames and someone might say "no man,
> it's really stupid", and OK, if so. If something is stupid then I want
> to learn new better ways on doing it and stand with my head high while
> admitting that this stupidity comes from my lack of knowledge, for now.
> 
> nforcer1 wrote:
> 
> > (Note to Marcin: please don't take any of this as criticism of you.  For all
> > any of us know, you might be in great shape, configured well and can reach
the
> > knobs with room to spare. Just asking the question makes you a great
candidate
> > for avoiding being the bad guy under Rules 1 and 2.  Follow steps 1-4,
above,
> > and it will all fall in place for you.)
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > PAlexakos@ao*.co* wrote:
> >
> > > In a message dated 12/23/1999 6:30:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > nforcer1@ix*.ne*.co* writes:
> > >
> > > << I'm not sure it matters, but I'll be glad to when I have a
little more
> > > time.  I
> > >  didn't know a resume was required to state the obvious on a point I think
> > > most
> > >  of us agree upon. >>
> > >
> > > Sure,
> > >
> > >     But when you are a tough guy, ready to suggest who is ready to dive or
> > > not, we are all interested what your qualifications are.
> > >
> > > Panos
> >
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