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Will, the "minimalist" CCR solution is to not dive them. (Works for me). When are you coming down, anyway? William Smithers wrote: > > > >Will Smithers has one made out of rolls of toilet paper and an innertube! > > >You'd probably die just as fast on that as folks are on the > > >Inspiration..._BUT_ think of the money you'd save! Just whip up the old > > >Smithers special and save yourself and wife/widow/girlfriend some serious > > >cash!! > > > > > >Sean > > Sean, I missed most of this thread, as I'm not currently subscribed > to this list, but somebody forwarded me your note, and I thought > it worth a public reply. > > The TP2000 (and later TP3000 and TP2750 series) was not a joke. > Well, sortof it was, but you'd have to have lots of closed circuit > rebreather experience to really get it, and the series was proven on some > moderately extreme dives. > > The thing about it was, it was a joke-within-a-joke-within-a-joke, > which, if you look at it with a rebreather designer's eye, wasn't > a joke at all - it was perfectly serious. In fact, I would offer that > it will stand for the next hundred years as the ultimate elegantly > pragmatic, minimalist CCR solution. THAT was the joke. > I can't tell from your post, but it looks like you probably missed > that, as I expect you would, not having any rebreather experience. > > Regards, > > -Will > > > > > > >Standard Tech List Disclaimer: > > >The preceding was an attempt at humor, I cannot advocate the use of toilet > > >paper in a rebreather, nor the use of an innertube (or even a rebreather > > >since I have never dove one)...if you choose to do either (the innertube or > > >toilet paper) you are pretty damn stupid IMHO, but hey it's a free country, > > >suck on toilet paper all you want... > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*> > > >To: Jeffrey Swann <swanncruz@ta*.ne*.au*> > > >Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > >Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 2:21 PM > > >Subject: Re: Rebreathers > > > > > > > > >> I can't recommend the cis lunar as I have never used it. I do have the > > >> owners manual for it, and would make several changes if if were mine, > > >> but all I can say is that it appears to be about like all of them only a > > >> little better quality and more use under its belt. Most appear actually > > >> to be copies of the cis, and the cis appears to be a bad copy of the > > >> Navy's MK-19, which is not in production. > > >> > > >> If I were to buy an electronic rebreather, I would want a MK 16, but you > > >> can not buy those, and they cost over 60 K anyway. > > >> > > >> The rebreathers I have are mechanical, and I only use them for > > >> ridiculous cave dives. I am not going to tell you to get a rebreather to > > >> save on gas money, as no amount of gas money is equal to your life. > > >> > > >> You must also consider that when I dive a rebreather, I am diving with > > >> Jarrod Jablonski, my ten year dive partner and the best dive partner in > > >> the world. I would even dive a buddy desperation if he were with me, > > >> with bondage wings on air, but then that is not even funny, is it. > > >> > > >> Jeffrey Swann wrote: > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > Yeah, I am aware of open circuit redundancy. > > >> > Of course that varies with the type of dive. > > >> > So is cis lunar your recomendation? > > >> > Obviously I have alot of research to do. > > >> > Jeff. > > >> > At 05:52 14/12/99 -0500, you wrote: > > >> > >If that is your goal, you might as well get the Cis Lunar. However, > > >> > >forget "redundency"? - you need o/c backup, and that makes them all a > > >> > >pain in the ass. > > >> > > > > >> > >Jeffrey Swann wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> Dear List, > > >> > >> I have been reading with interest the inclusion of He in many mixes, > > >not > > >> > >> always for significant depth. > > >> > >> He over here (Darwin, Australia) is not that easy to come by, and is > > >quite > > >> > >> expensive. > > >> > >> I am toying with the long-term proposition of running a rebreather > > >which > > >> > >> will control pp O2 at all depth ranges. > > >> > >> I believe cis lunar will do this. > > >> > >> Could I please obtain some information on the state of play of > > >rebreathers, > > >> > >> on the "top end" of the market? > > >> > >> I realise redundancy is a consideration. > > >> > >> I am looking for a long term solution to use He in a wide range of > > >> > >> circumstances and depth ranges. > > >> > >> Without using a wastefull open circuit situation. > > >> > >> Thanks in advance. > > >> > >> Jeff. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > >-- > > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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