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From: "John Walker" <techdive@ea*.ne*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: My Dive this weekend an "Air" thing
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:28:14 -0800

   I concur with you George.  Its unfortunate that the industry breeds
divers this way, IGNORANT.  And it's a shame that green divers are easily
given a credential to teach diving with the same IGNORANCE that was taught
to them.

   Early last week I was invited to give a presentation to a group of NAUI
O/W instructor candidates.  Not realizing what lay ahead, I agreed to do so
on the spur of the moment.  The course director had never approved of the
diving that I did, but I felt that she was truly interested in my sharing
something about technical diving. Man, was I wrong.

   I got to a point in the presentation where I shared with the group how
several techniques used in technical diving have became adaptable to
recreational diving to enhance safety.  I explained how donating the reg
from the mouth of the donor to an out of air diver made a hell of a lot more
sense than teaching divers to give a silly ass signal and wait for the doner
to find the octopus attached to some off the wall location on his/her BCD
while the OOA diver starts to drown.

   The course director went off on me in attempt to make me look like the
stupid one. The funny thing is, it backfired on her.  She looked like the
stupid one.  She told me (and the instructor candidates) that if we taught
this technique that 50% of her students would drowned.  If so, those 50% of
divers should never recieve a C-card.  Don't we also teach to never dive
beyond our limits and beyond what we are taught?  These divers should then
never be placed in a situation were this could happen, they should never be
placed in the water.  She also said, "Screw the out of air diver, I'm not
the one who ran out of air.  It's their problem."  But at the same time she
pretends to promote the buddy system.

   I was flabbergasted that she was actually training INSTRUCTORS, who will
someday be responsible for taking the general public into a hazardous
invironment, with this sort of philosophy.  It amazed me that she would
consider certifying a diver who could not survive if their own reg was
pulled from their mouth, but yet she teaches two different reg retrievals in
the water. Go figure!

   This is beyond sad.  The breeding of this nonsense is progressing beyond
belief.  Something needs to be done.  People need to know the truth in order
to survive underwater, and they need to be taught realistic survival skills.
Dive training has to be focused on REAL LIFE diving, not fabricated
bullshit. Instructors resorting to this rediculous bullshit rather than REAL
LIFE diving needs should get a clue that THEY SHOULD NOT BE TEACHING DIVING.

      John




 >We have a serious problem in the dive training industry and in "tech"
> diving with the ignorance and moronity of the big mouths who have never
> "been there done that" except in their own minds in the most pathetic
> little weenie bounce diving do nothing way - none of these guys have
> been "Downtown" or played hardball and as such have no idea what the
> real story is. These people are influencing diving and that is why we
> have so many "unexplained" accidents.
>
>  It behooves all of us in the WKPP and anyone else with a brain on their
> shoulders to get out there and counter the Pete hess's and other
> horrendous ignoramuses in diving in and out of the "training" agencies .
> We owe it to everyone to do this, since we have the real experience and
> know for certain what the problems are and can see why the deaths are
> stacking up.
>
>  We are doing things underwater for years with a perfrect track record
> that none of these big mouths has ever or will ever do, and we need to
> have the confindence to point that out to everyone and to take the abuse
> from the Big Vons and other lowlifes and keep telling the story and keep
> refering to what we really do and what our scorecard looks like, and
> save some lives in the process.
>
>  You have all seen the extreme measure that some of the training agency
> jerks have gone to in order to try to discredit me and the WKPP, and you
> constantly see the viciousness of the attacks out of the
> representatives of these agencies and the deep air or bullshit equipment
> crowd. We are blowing the whistle on all of them, and that is why. We
> need to have the same tanacity that they do .
>
>  There is no reason to ever be polite to a dangerous idiot, and there is
> no reason not to step all over them with the facts every last time they
> stick their heads up, I would appreciate it if more of our members would
> take the time to teach other people the truth, and to kick some of these
> strokes right in the ass publicly whenever you can with extreme
> prejudice.
>
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