George,

Perfect example! You and your group do some of the most challenging dives,
develop and promote the great methodologies and equipment configuration, by
all reading appear to be establishing new and short DECO models. Why always
attack. Many of us are supporters. If people are doing or talking in
strokish manner, then correct the stroke.

The "Blow Me" is typical.

I have other things to do then fight a word game. I want to learn and
understand more. I want to dive more and when ever I can and typically do.

The other thread on DECO is great! Where is the source document and data to
analysis and understand the method and process? How can I and other achieve
that type and decoing short of spending months in FL, job won't allow it.

That is the purpose of the list I believe, not the Todd's comments or some
of the STUFF that occurs here.

See ya!

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 7:10 PM
> To: dwiden@ho*.co*
> Cc: 'William Gearman'; 'Ron Carver'; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: It hasn't been much fun,
>
>
> David, is it ok for them to do it to me? Just asking. Blow me. This
> "southern" crap is nonsense. How about Alaska, Canada,
> Norway, Sweeden,
> England? Blinders?
>
> David, look at who is saying what.
>
> David B. Widen wrote:
> >
> > Is it really necessary for everyone on this list to take
> personal attacks?
> > Why is it just afew making all these attacks in the name of
> tech diving?
> > This is a forum to exchange knowledge skills, methods, achievements,
> > improvement, and more.
> >
> > It is not a place for George to bash JT, group attacks on
> Von on a personal
> > level, George bashing Von and others.
> >
> > Ron is restating a position many on this list feel. I
> typically do not have
> > the time nor the desire to be involve in the mud & BS that
> many thread
> > create.
> >
> > I know I am about to be bashed for this comment and as one
> of the divers in
> > the group out of VB and my association with JT and Jim. I
> have dove with
> > both many times. I was on several of JT's deep dives this
> past year. I know
> > what he does and what he stands for. I know the general
> respect that others
> > have for him and what he is trying to achieve here. Safety
> is one of the
> > most important pieces of the puzzle to him. He is a strong
> promoter of the
> > Hogarthian and DIR methodologies here.
> >
> > Too many times the blinders are on some of the Southern
> group and they are
> > making statements without true knowledge of the situation or goals.
> >
> > Is there a way we can all work together as a group for the
> betterment of
> > sport and the diving community?
> >
> > George think before you respond.
> >
> > David
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: William Gearman [mailto:gearman_1@ya*.co*]
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:07 PM
> > > To: Ron Carver; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > > Subject: Re: It hasn't been much fun,
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron;
> > >
> > > If you failed to learn anything in 8 months,
> > > perhaps you need to have your reading
> > > comprehension checked out.  Seriously,
> > >
> > > WG
> > >
> > > --- Ron Carver <rcarver1@mi*.rr*.co*> wrote:
> > > > I know this is going to get flamed big time,
> > > > but oh well, not one single
> > > > message on this list doesn't get flamed, and
> > > > that is the reason I am
> > > > unsubscribing.
> > > >
> > > > I have been watching for about 8 months now,
> > > > hoping to learn something,
> > > > perhaps have some lively discussions.  What a
> > > > person gets from this list is
> > > > the rantings and ravings of 12 year olds.  Its
> > > > pathetic.  Everyone on this
> > > > list knows better how to dive than everyone
> > > > else on the list.  I admit I
> > > > know very little about caving, and deep wrecks,
> > > > which is why I came here,
> > > > and why I don't cave or deep dive yet...
> > > > However, after 8 months of
> > > > reading and listening, I feel like I am dumber
> > > > for the whole experience.  I
> > > > do belive I know less now than I did when I
> > > > came here.
> > > >
> > > > I have always been rather picky about who I
> > > > dive with, and I am afraid
> > > > there are a scant few on this list whom I would
> > > > have as a buddy.  It would
> > > > be hard to trust someone who is always yelling
> > > > and calling you stupid.  The
> > > > one yelling the loudest that he is right, is
> > > > just almost always wrong.
> > > > Perhaps one day I will come back in a year or
> > > > so and see if anything
> > > > productive is being said.  Until then.. Later
> > > >
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