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From: "David B. Widen" <dwiden@ho*.co*>
To: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>, "'techdiver'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <wkpp@eg*.op*.co*>, "Vbtech (E-mail)" <vbtech@ci*.co*>
Subject: RE: My Dive this weekend an "Air" thing
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:24:21 -0500
Great account and example of what can happen even to the best on a Trimix
and skilled buddies. Deep Air is a real problem, people do not understand
that. I have stopped more then one diver from diving air (DEEP) up here on
our trips. I will continue to in the future.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 8:35 AM
> To: techdiver
> Cc: wkpp@eg*.op*.co*
> Subject: My Dive this weekend an "Air" thing
>
>
> I did a dive yesterday that really opened my eyes on this air issue.
> It was the 300 for 42 that I discussed the deco on before.
>
>   I was mixed in my stage and on my back with 11% oxygen , 60% helium
> trimix. I was diving D Tunnel of Wakulla, a clear tunnel , with Casey
> McKinlay and Barry Miller - both long time dive partners. I know the
> tunnel, so do they - a comfortable dive.
>
>   The dive plan was to go thorugh A to D, switch to backgas
> but keeping
> the stages for the video effect, turn on the video lights, and go the
> the last room , filming each area as we went. It was a beautiful dive.
> At about 2600 feet in we found the spot where Exley and
> DeLoach had lost
> a scooter and De Loach was towing Exley. Sheck's compass strap had got
> caught in the Aquazepp prop and it ripped it from his wrist.
> Exley ended
> up swimming all the way out by himself - an amazing feat that took all
> of his gas plus five safety bottles.
>
>   We found that compass on the floor and videoed it, with me
> picking it
> up and holding it to the camera lens and then putting it
> back. I had no
> trouble doing this cleanly and steadily at 306 feet. By the
> way this is
> one of the best videos we have ever made.
>
>   We then came across some ridiculous cluster that the usct had had,
> with a line run over a bridge in the cave to the roof and
> back down and
> then cut off and left flapping in the breeze. We wondered what kind of
> panicky screwup that was about. No problem , knew what that was right
> away and it did not throw us off at all.
>
>   Moving on we got the the last horizontal room ( then there is a
> vertical room with a 100 foot rise but we did not want to get
> into that
> ). The second to last room is spectacular, white walled with
> blue water
> and quite large. Barry moved a little off the line into the room with
> his camera, I moved sideways to the middle, and Casey went all around
> the room with his video light) .
>
>   I had my back to Barry, but could see his steady bright
> video lights ,
> and my back to the line, concentrating on lighting in the direction of
> Casey. Unknown to me, three other WKPP divers had scootered past us
> behind me towards the last room. Casey signalled to us to wrap it up,
> and I stowed my video head and turned the canister off.
>
>   But I was still all lit up. I then tried to turn it "off" again. It
> went back on instead. I then turned it off again, and I was still all
> lit up. I was getting concerned. I did not want to blast the battery
> pack and have it offgas. I turned back to look at Barry for advice (
> Casey was now in front of me stowing his light as well).
> There were two
> Barrys!! I could see his two video lights and his primary, and three
> more primarys in a triangle just like his three lights. This was
> lighting me up. I scanned my light around the room looking
> for what was
> causing the "reflection". I looked at my lights to see how
> many were on.
> I looked at Casey again to be sure he was still on the
> outbound side of
> me . I looked back at Barry, and then droped down to see if I was
> hitting a halocline and if that was causing the "reflection".
> There was
> none. I checked my gas - a habit when confused. No problem. I then
> thought I had just seen that same reading, so I checked my left knob -
> it was on. I check my gas again. Still the same, I hit the guage on my
> stage tank - still the same, and then I saw it move a little when I
> breathed - it was OK. All this for nothing but confusion over the
> lights.
>
>  I waited for Barry to move towards me while watching Casey -
> I did not
> want Casey to move while I was feeling like I was "leaving" those
> lights, even though I had no idea what they were, but I could not tell
> which was the "real" Barry. I still did not realize that
> there were six
> divers, not three, depsite the evidence ( I could only see
> their lights
> shining at me, not their bodies or scooters). Then is slowly dawned on
> me that it was divers, and then it was a few seconds before it
> registered that they were our divers ( like where else could they have
> come from), and then I was still wondering how they could have gone by
> me, and then I figured that out about three minutes later. This was 5
> minutes of confusion that I am glad was in a non-emergency situation.
>
>  When we got back to A Tunnel, there were five divers at the
> junction ,
> a cool site in a place like that, and easier to recognize
> since we were
> now 60 feet shallower and I could see the bodies of the dives
> as well as
> the lights . We tightened up so as not to confuse each other
> - the other
> divers stopped and gathered above us while we got out of the way so as
> not to cause a mixup. I unhooked the line form Gregg Jackson's scooter
> handle as I went by - this was Bill Stones spiderweb mess
> floating free
> in the cave that had cought Jackson's scooter.
>
>  At deco, on the slope there were divers everywhere, and it was a
> spectacular site seeing all of those lights floating up out
> of the cave.
>
>  If this is what 60% trimix does with an "AED" of 85 feet in
> a familiar
> setting in clear water with the best divers as dive partners, what is
> happening to the student out there and the new divers who are getting
> the Pete Hess bullshit that " if you can not do 170 on air you have no
> business trimix diving"?
>
>  We have a serious problem in the dive training industry and in "tech"
> diving with the ignorance and moronity of the big mouths who
> have never
> "been there done that" except in their own minds in the most pathetic
> little weenie bounce diving do nothing way - none of these guys have
> been "Downtown" or played hardball and as such have no idea what the
> real story is. These people are influencing diving and that is why we
> have so many "unexplained" accidents.
>
>  It behooves all of us in the WKPP and anyone else with a
> brain on their
> shoulders to get out there and counter the Pete hess's and other
> horrendous ignoramuses in diving in and out of the "training"
> agencies .
> We owe it to everyone to do this, since we have the real
> experience and
> know for certain what the problems are and can see why the deaths are
> stacking up.
>
>  We are doing things underwater for years with a perfrect track record
> that none of these big mouths has ever or will ever do, and we need to
> have the confindence to point that out to everyone and to
> take the abuse
> from the Big Vons and other lowlifes and keep telling the
> story and keep
> refering to what we really do and what our scorecard looks like, and
> save some lives in the process.
>
>  You have all seen the extreme measure that some of the
> training agency
> jerks have gone to in order to try to discredit me and the
> WKPP, and you
> constantly see the viciousness of the attacks out of the
> representatives of these agencies and the deep air or
> bullshit equipment
> crowd. We are blowing the whistle on all of them, and that is why. We
> need to have the same tanacity that they do .
>
>  There is no reason to ever be polite to a dangerous idiot,
> and there is
> no reason not to step all over them with the facts every last
> time they
> stick their heads up, I would appreciate it if more of our
> members would
> take the time to teach other people the truth, and to kick
> some of these
> strokes right in the ass publicly whenever you can with extreme
> prejudice.
>
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