Is it really necessary for everyone on this list to take personal attacks?
Why is it just afew making all these attacks in the name of tech diving?
This is a forum to exchange knowledge skills, methods, achievements,
improvement, and more.

It is not a place for George to bash JT, group attacks on Von on a personal
level, George bashing Von and others.

Ron is restating a position many on this list feel. I typically do not have
the time nor the desire to be involve in the mud & BS that many thread
create.

I know I am about to be bashed for this comment and as one of the divers in
the group out of VB and my association with JT and Jim. I have dove with
both many times. I was on several of JT's deep dives this past year. I know
what he does and what he stands for. I know the general respect that others
have for him and what he is trying to achieve here. Safety is one of the
most important pieces of the puzzle to him. He is a strong promoter of the
Hogarthian and DIR methodologies here.

Too many times the blinders are on some of the Southern group and they are
making statements without true knowledge of the situation or goals.

Is there a way we can all work together as a group for the betterment of
sport and the diving community?

George think before you respond.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Gearman [mailto:gearman_1@ya*.co*]
> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 12:07 PM
> To: Ron Carver; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject: Re: It hasn't been much fun,
>
>
> Ron;
>
> If you failed to learn anything in 8 months,
> perhaps you need to have your reading
> comprehension checked out.  Seriously,
>
> WG
>
> --- Ron Carver <rcarver1@mi*.rr*.co*> wrote:
> > I know this is going to get flamed big time,
> > but oh well, not one single
> > message on this list doesn't get flamed, and
> > that is the reason I am
> > unsubscribing.
> >
> > I have been watching for about 8 months now,
> > hoping to learn something,
> > perhaps have some lively discussions.  What a
> > person gets from this list is
> > the rantings and ravings of 12 year olds.  Its
> > pathetic.  Everyone on this
> > list knows better how to dive than everyone
> > else on the list.  I admit I
> > know very little about caving, and deep wrecks,
> > which is why I came here,
> > and why I don't cave or deep dive yet...
> > However, after 8 months of
> > reading and listening, I feel like I am dumber
> > for the whole experience.  I
> > do belive I know less now than I did when I
> > came here.
> >
> > I have always been rather picky about who I
> > dive with, and I am afraid
> > there are a scant few on this list whom I would
> > have as a buddy.  It would
> > be hard to trust someone who is always yelling
> > and calling you stupid.  The
> > one yelling the loudest that he is right, is
> > just almost always wrong.
> > Perhaps one day I will come back in a year or
> > so and see if anything
> > productive is being said.  Until then.. Later
> >
> >
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