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At 07:39 30/11/99 , Grant Jones wrote:
>billy wrote:
>
> >SInce one is also not breathing into the victim, swimming
> >would be easier than when applying EAR. You can either tell me
> >why this assumption is incorrect. Or just keep trying to find
> >a hole.
>
> Are you telling me that you can't swim / tow and carry out EAR at the
>same time
No Grant. read it again. Or better still, get someone to
read it for you. You're not doing very well on your own.
>- or is this some thing else you figured out sitting in front of
>your PC ? - when you've been and done it you can come back and tell us if
>you think its easier, thats the problem with assumptions, you can never
>trust them in the real world.
Never, Grant? Never? Don't be a clot.
> >Let's see, I have control of the reg and the nose. Where
> >does the water get in? And unlike the rescuer's mouth during
> >EAR, the reg never leaves the victim's mouth.
>
> And you can guarantee a 100% seal between the mouth and the reg ?,
I asked you a question. Can't you answer it?
And if one is applying POSITIVE PRESSURE oxygen,
is a 100% seal between the mouth and the reg absolutely
necessary? (That's another question, Grant).
>as I
>said before go and try it, then come back and you can discuss it in real
>terms, not theory.
Er, I believe I was the one who said I would go and try it,
remember? 1. understanding - theory. 2. Practice - trial.
3. Preparedness to use it. WHat part of the above sequence is
gicving you all this difficulty?
Grant, you have poor reading skills, abysmal comprehension,
a very short attention span, and once round your bowl and your
memory's wiped clean, you poor bugger. Are you sure you're not
just a drooling example of the dangers of repeated deep air
exposures? A sort of Living Lesion?
> And why do you use the victims mouth during EAR ?, isn't it easier to
>seal the mouth and use the nose - I take it you have done EAR in the water.
Is this an assumption Grant? I thought you said you could
NEVER trust them.
My argument was with those who said positive pressure
02 should absolutely NOT be administered through a scuba
regulator. I am working out how to do it. I will post the results
to the list.
You can keep trying Grant but you won't find any holes.
billyw
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bdi@wh*.ne* <bdi@wh*.ne*>
>To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
>Date: 29 November 1999 09:39
>Subject: Re: Re:legalities of purging someone
>
>
> >At 05:27 28/11/99 , Grant Jones wrote:
> >>billy wrote:
> >>
> >> >The only assumption I made was about swimming being easier
> >> >while using a reg one handed than while administering EAR
> >>
> >> And:
> >>
> >> >If I can operate the reg with one hand,
> >> >that leaves one hand free to extend the neck and/or seal the
> >> >nose.
> >>
> >> So its not really one handed is it?, its two, same as in EAR
> >
> >I don;t know why you're not getting this Grant.
> >The reg is being operated ONE-Handed, not TWO. SO the other hand
> >is free to pinching the nose and perhaps straighten the airway.
> >
> >SInce one is also not breathing into the victim, swimming
> >would be easier than when applying EAR. You can either tell me
> >why this assumption is incorrect. Or just keep trying to find
> >a hole.
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