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From: "August Bricker" <a_bricker@ho*.co*>
To: HESSIANS@ao*.co*, mhkane@pr*.ne*, bigvon@be*.ne*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Making Asses
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 06:29:52 PST

Well said Peter.

I often find myself hitting the del button before I get through any of 
George's post because I don't have the time to read the bullshit.  I don't 
know much about the WKPP or George, I've heard they have a really great 
system, but I am turned off by the constant insults to even try and find out 
more info.  I've been  actively involved with diving some 20 years through 
teaching recreational diving and wreck diving in the northeast and until I 
began subscribing to the list have never heard about the WKPP. To be honest 
cave diving scare the hell out of me and I hand it to the people who can do 
it safely. I think they should change there attitude and educate instead of 
criticize.

Just my opinion.

August Bricker
President
The Dive Club Int'l Inc.

Vice-President
The Institute for Marine Archaeology.
>From: <HESSIANS@ao*.co*>
>To: mhkane@pr*.ne*, bigvon@be*.ne*
>CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject: Making Asses
>Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:29:37 EST
>
>MHKane accuses Bill Von Haene of "making an ass of himself" for having the
>termerity--and the diving credentials--to disagree with the WKPP Guru, 
>George
>Irvine.  Having regularly read the invective that the WKPP claims as an
>intelligent discourse on technical diving, I find it to be the height of
>hypocrisy for any Invine-ite to accuse someone else of making an ass of
>himself.
>
>Thousands of gifted technical divers have given up on this list because the
>Irvine-ites refuse to divorce their mudslinging from practical, helpful
>information.  You guys do not have all the answers and DIR--which, by your
>own admission, is still evolving--is not the Manna from Heaven.
>
>Before y'all line up to flame me, pause for a moment (if this is possible)
>and consider how much more valuable this list would be if contrasting
>viewpoints were afforded the same respect that you seem to reserve
>exclusively for your champion.  Imagine the great divers who would 
>regularly
>be a part of such discussions.
>
>Sadly, this list is becoming nothing more than WKPP fans congrulating
>themselves on their (admittedly impressive) accomplishments.  We can do 
>much
>better than this.
>Peter Hess
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