So what you are saying is that you apply the cotton before you EVEN read the
post?  I guess it must be nice to know it all...George passes information
out based on what he and others did WRONG.  He has a ton info, and to just
delete it w/o reading it is a shame, and a great loss on your part.  Hell, I
get tired of Big Von's arguments, but I read each one just to see what the
hell he is saying...

Sean


----- Original Message -----
From: August Bricker <a_bricker@ho*.co*>
To: <HESSIANS@ao*.co*>; <mhkane@pr*.ne*>; <bigvon@be*.ne*>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 1999 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Making Asses


>
> Well said Peter.
>
> I often find myself hitting the del button before I get through any of
> George's post because I don't have the time to read the bullshit.  I don't
> know much about the WKPP or George, I've heard they have a really great
> system, but I am turned off by the constant insults to even try and find
out
> more info.  I've been  actively involved with diving some 20 years through
> teaching recreational diving and wreck diving in the northeast and until I
> began subscribing to the list have never heard about the WKPP. To be
honest
> cave diving scare the hell out of me and I hand it to the people who can
do
> it safely. I think they should change there attitude and educate instead
of
> criticize.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> August Bricker
> President
> The Dive Club Int'l Inc.
>
> Vice-President
> The Institute for Marine Archaeology.
> >From: <HESSIANS@ao*.co*>
> >To: mhkane@pr*.ne*, bigvon@be*.ne*
> >CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> >Subject: Making Asses
> >Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:29:37 EST
> >
> >MHKane accuses Bill Von Haene of "making an ass of himself" for having
the
> >termerity--and the diving credentials--to disagree with the WKPP Guru,
> >George
> >Irvine.  Having regularly read the invective that the WKPP claims as an
> >intelligent discourse on technical diving, I find it to be the height of
> >hypocrisy for any Invine-ite to accuse someone else of making an ass of
> >himself.
> >
> >Thousands of gifted technical divers have given up on this list because
the
> >Irvine-ites refuse to divorce their mudslinging from practical, helpful
> >information.  You guys do not have all the answers and DIR--which, by
your
> >own admission, is still evolving--is not the Manna from Heaven.
> >
> >Before y'all line up to flame me, pause for a moment (if this is
possible)
> >and consider how much more valuable this list would be if contrasting
> >viewpoints were afforded the same respect that you seem to reserve
> >exclusively for your champion.  Imagine the great divers who would
> >regularly
> >be a part of such discussions.
> >
> >Sadly, this list is becoming nothing more than WKPP fans congrulating
> >themselves on their (admittedly impressive) accomplishments.  We can do
> >much
> >better than this.
> >Peter Hess
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