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Peter, MHK was extremely antagonistic to George Irvine and DIR on both the tech list and repeatedly on rec.scuba over the last few years. Then he dove with George, got some good answers, and now is no longer a member of YOUR personal preference crowd ( i.e., he is now taking DIR seriously). Calling him an "Irvine-ite just shows you don't want to see what is squarely in front of you. Dan Volker -----Original Message----- From: HESSIANS@ao*.co* [mailto:HESSIANS@ao*.co*] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 2:30 PM To: mhkane@pr*.ne*; bigvon@be*.ne* Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com Subject: Making Asses MHKane accuses Bill Von Haene of "making an ass of himself" for having the termerity--and the diving credentials--to disagree with the WKPP Guru, George Irvine. Having regularly read the invective that the WKPP claims as an intelligent discourse on technical diving, I find it to be the height of hypocrisy for any Invine-ite to accuse someone else of making an ass of himself. Thousands of gifted technical divers have given up on this list because the Irvine-ites refuse to divorce their mudslinging from practical, helpful information. You guys do not have all the answers and DIR--which, by your own admission, is still evolving--is not the Manna from Heaven. Before y'all line up to flame me, pause for a moment (if this is possible) and consider how much more valuable this list would be if contrasting viewpoints were afforded the same respect that you seem to reserve exclusively for your champion. Imagine the great divers who would regularly be a part of such discussions. Sadly, this list is becoming nothing more than WKPP fans congrulating themselves on their (admittedly impressive) accomplishments. We can do much better than this. Peter Hess -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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