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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:36:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Esat Atikkan <atikkan@ya*.co*>
Subject: Re: its about going deep george
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Definition of cold may B relevant.
350 was pretty warm (78-80) in the Carib.  
Safe bubbles
Esat Atikkan

--- kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> The ocean is cold at 350, I live here, I dive here,
> I know it is cold at
> 350. It is cold at 350 everywhere, but you do not
> know that because you
> are bs'ing the list. The dehydration is nonsense -
> take a squeeze bottle
> - if you actually did what you say you do, you would
> also know this one.
> 
> bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> > 
> > Blow Horn
> > You obviously have never made a dive in warm
> Caribbean water or you would understand the
> dehydration
> > issue.
> > 
> > And if you read my post you moron you would
> understand that the BC is flipped around, not upside
> down.
> > What a buffoon.
> > 
> > Bill
> > 
> > Mat Bloedorn wrote:
> > 
> > > Pawn,
> > >
> > > You are in fact the master of misdirection!
> > >
> > > How are you going to handle anything but warm
> water?   The issue of warm water has been addressed
> > > already by George and others.  Read the posts. 
> Oh yes, you were worried about dehydration.
> > > That's right.  You are quite correct that a (is
> it 1/8 inch?) wetsuit provides far less insulation
> > > that a trilam drysuit with minimal underwear
> (t-shirt and shorts?) at the deco stops. So you'd be
> > > far more comfortable in that wetsuit (yah
> right).  You are quite correct that an upside down
> BC
> > > with waist level inflation makes far more
> sense...
> > >
> > > Pawn,
> > >
> > > I can't wait for the video so we can all see the
> full explanation of the Big Pawn system.  I'm
> > > looking forward to the video shots of the gear
> in use.
> > >
> > > When will the web-site be up?
> > >
> > > Mat.
> > >
> > > --- bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> > > > Like I said before George you are a master of
> misdirection. The discussion
> > > > was about deep warm water diving with steels
> without the use of a scooter..
> > > > Not cold Britannic water with drysuits and
> scooters.
> > > > You still did not answer the question tough
> guy and I doubt you ever will.
> > > > Von
> > > >
> > > > kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Von, why don't you stop by GUE and
> straighten Jarrod out. I tried to
> > > > > tell him that diving the Britannic in a
> drysuit was not the Von method,
> > > > > and that since he was beyond 300, he should
> have had steels and a
> > > > > wetsuit, a backwards bc, two bottom timers
> in case his arm got bit off
> > > > > by a shark, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe you can come to a WKPP dive and tell
> me how to do more than a
> > > > > "bounce" dive, since I have very little
> experience with the kind of big
> > > > > bottom times you are doing, and show me
> about "exploring" and what I
> > > > > need to do in the way of "modifications " to
> accomplish these feats,
> > > > > short of the lobotomy is appears you forgot
> to tell us about.
> > > > >
> > > > > bigvon@be*.ne* wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I did laugh at THAT one.
> > > > > > I realize I am on the "DIR list", not
> techdiver. I will continue to
> > > > > > dive my way and you guys can stay above
> 300 and dive your way. No one
> > > > > > has addressed the deep issue. I am not
> advocating deep diving, just
> > > > > > commenting on a style that is safe. You
> WKPP guys keep bouncing the
> > > > > > wrecks and we will keep exploring them.
> > > > > > Von
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gordonjr wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >      Von, You place your backup wing on
> upside down, strap the
> > > > > >      inflator to your waist strap, and
> orally inflate at waist
> > > > > >      level?Hell, if I could do that I'd
> never leave the house
> > > > > >      (credits to G.Carlin). JR Gordon  
> "Just flip the BC over
> > > > > >      and place it over the bolts as you do
> your primary B.C.
> > > > > >      I loop a small loop of small bungie
> over the bottom bolt
> > > > > >      before I assemble the
> > > > > >      harness. This loop is placed over the
>  power inflator
> > > > > >      mechanism to secure it at
> > > > > >      your right waist. There is no hose
> run to the inflator. Just
> > > > > >      orally inflate if
> > > > > >      needed."
> > > > >
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