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Idiot - I have sufficient training to do this, Bill Mee is a biomedical
engineer, not some bus driving ambulance monkey, and you do not know
jack shit about anything.

You have no business commenting on my diving, even using the word
"brilliant" because again you have no clue what I do and whether it is
"brilliant" or not. In fact, just you saying that I take as a negative
since you have been so bad on everything else.

I do not give a whup what paramedics say publicly, in our organization
they better do it our way, and our way is what works and bullshit is
what does not work. I also do not care what rules apply to these guys,
we make the rules in our game.

Bill Mee explained it to your stupid ass, now get over it. Nobody is
intersted in your girl scout mentality, they are interseted in what the
best in the world do and how they deal with it - you are not one of
those.

Karen Nakamura wrote:
> 
> George-
> 
> Do you suffer from paranoid delusions? Why do you have to make everything so
> damn personal?
> 
> This has *nothing* to do with you. We're merely remarking on a method (purge
> valve resuscitation) which on all counts is dangerous and shouldn't be
> practiced by anyone, skill level or legal liabilities notwithstanding.
> 
> You might be a brilliant diver (and I think you are), but you're not a
> paramedic. Several paramedics have gotten up and said that this method is
> unsafe and stands a high risk of killing someone even more than they already
> are. At the very least, try to do no harm so that there's a little bit left
> for the ambulance crews to try to recover.
> 
> I think it's a mark of intelligence to be able to admit the domains where
> one's knowledge is insufficient. I came onto tech-diver to learn more about
> tech diving. But I have studied paramedicine extensively and none of your
> "arguments" regarding your method have proven very logical.
> 
> If DIR is about truly doing things right and if there is a logical reason
> behind each DIR decision, then it should be possible to explain why the
> purge method is superior or even desirable. None have been presented and
> instead several people have given logical reasons as to why it's clearly
> very hazardous and shouldn't be used.
> 
> I'll gladly listen to any of your comments regarding diving technique and
> appreciate your contributions to the list in that regard; but you're not a
> paramedic and I believe someone has said you haven't even taken a rescue
> course (which seems illogical; although it would be the only way for you to
> escape liability from using the purge-valve method).
> 
> Karen Nakamura
> 
> At 4:11 PM -0500 99/11/23, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote:
> > Karen, Bill is out of town, and you are out of your league. Shut the
> > hell up. YOU ar the one who does not read, does not dive, does not get
> > it, and does not have any business yapping about it. You have never delt
> > with a real situation, we have , and until you do, your opinion is as
> > worthless as your "quick release" and every other thing that sounds good
> > to you and does not work in real life.
> >
> > I do not mind telling you - you are a complete idiot and it is showing.
> > You have no idea what the dynamics of any of this are, and again, no
> > business commenting, and no business attacking Bill Mee or any of us who
> > do.


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