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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 10:00:18 -0500
To: Randy Sullivan <sulteck@bi*.co*>
CC: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: He who laughs last, laughs best.
One more rookie know it all speaks. The fact is , big time, the current
and the logistics of spearfishing on those ledges makes the scooter a
liability. The fish also "learn" the scooter immediately, and stay that
much further away. We need to come across them and shoot. Sure , they
hear our heatbeats and eiher hide or get apprehensive, but that is
better than the outright fleeing they do when the get scootered once.

In the Bahamas, it makes no difference since they tend to hide
immediately and you get tuned to looking for them in those spots, or
drifting about them until they show where they are hiding.

The whole point of this is that bill "big von" insists that we do not
dive or are somehow incapable swimmers when the truth is he has no clue.
The concept that a couple of cyclists and Masters swimmers who have been
diving all of their lives and hold records for open circuit dives or
freediver of Volker's class can not do the swimming dive that big von is
yapping about is ludicrous.

I would love to get a slob like that in the water just once. We have
seen these types when we used to dive off of Mim's boat - 99% of them we
can beat using a single 80 to their double 121's - in other words come
up with more psi in the 80 than they do in the 121's, and in fact the
last time we dove on Mims boat, Bill Mee checked the pressure guages of
every last one of these guys since they mouthed off to us before the
dive about having single tanks ( I think "big von"was one of these
guys), and we did in fact beat every last one of them, and to make it
really pathetic so you know how far off base this Von is, Bill and I set
the hook on the wreck and pulled it once every one was off the wreck
while staying down on it. They all called it a 30 minute bottom time and
decoed their asses off, I called my time 13 minutes, and I was first
down and lsst up, and wa diving trimix with no deco gas at all, and got
out of the ater an hour before any of these heavyweights, but I do not
kwon hat I ma doing and can't dive, right?

The last time Bill Mee and I dove Ginnie Springs we swam to the rooms
past the "hinkle" "restriction" on our 104's with no stage and without
breaking "thirds", and in fact almost every WKPP gas diver can do this. 
This was done in TLS 350 drysuits with C-4 as well. We also roundtripped
in in less than an hour, in case big von or anyone else wants to go test
his skills against ours before accusing us of not knowing how to "swim"
dive.

It is time to say this - if any of you want to fight with me, you need
to do it privately, and the sooner you resentfull little srotkes get
over me and the WKPP , the sooner there will be productive information
flow on here. I will match my contribuiton to any of you complainers any
time, and come out ahead by anyones measure.

Randy Sullivan wrote:
> 
> >"When you can keep up with Gavins or Makos, using just your own power,
> maybe then you can
> >attempt to dive with us." said by Dan Volker
> 
> Who do you think you are kidding?  Blow that sunshine up some open water
> sport diver newbe's butt.  If you are that good that you can dive
> maintaining that kind of speed, than WHY use another failure point (i.e.
> scooter).
> 
> I've been on this list a long time; I don't complain, I learn and delete A
> LOT of crap. This statement like what Dan the stuper diver stated broke me.
> I had respect for what contributions you have made to the list in the past,
> but you are just fooling yourself if you believe what you just published to
> this list.
> 
> Randy Sullivan
> sulteck@bi*.co*
> 
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