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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:05:41 -0500
To: Karen Nakamura <karen@gp*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DIR/WKPP are not registered trademarks Re: here we go again:Re:
     Legalities of purging someone
Karen, I never said they were MINE. Let's make it easy - leave me out of
your ridiculous nonsense.

DIR was a name I gave our system to differentiate it from "Hogarthian".
The guys who make gear based on this are the ones who have their stuff
trademarked. WKPP is a 501 C 3, not a trademark and it is a name that
you need to lose from your discussions, along with mine.

Leave my name, DIR as it applies to our system of diving and us in
particular, and WKPP out of your discussions, please. You want to fight
only, and when you pretened to speak for anyone in WKPP , GUE or
anything else involving us, you are out of bounds - way out.

This is s diving list - you don't like me, I don't like you . I don't
like you because you are a shill for others who do not have the nuts to
openly admit to stupidity like quick releases and other nonsense, so
sent you out to test the waters.

If you want to argue any aspect of our diving , give it a try, but this
is really going out of your way to be an asshole, and at that you are
succeeding. Like I said, you have crossed the line that all of the
strokes cross when they get no satisfaction from me. It won't work.

Now try researching something that provides information , not personal
attacks on me, you hypocrite. 

Karen Nakamura wrote:
> 
> > Do me a huge favor - leave me out of these "discussions", or leave my
> > name and the name of our organizations and our trademarks OUT of your
> > nonsense, and DIR is a trademark, by the way.
> 
> George -
> 
> First, a quick search of the US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) reveals
> that neither DIR nor WKPP are registered (or pending) trademarks in the
> United States for scuba-related operations.  If you wanted to register DIR,
> prepare for some legalities as DIR is registered already for several other
> (non-scuba) businesses.
> 
>     DIR owned by DIR Broadcasting Corp.   (Production of Radio and
> Television Programs)
>         Serial Number   73-279604
>         Registration Number     1196475
>    DIR owned by InterMark2000 (software application ... for resume production)
>         Serial Number   75-456176
>    DIR owned by Skyman Enterprises Inc.
>         Serial Number   75-225769
> 
> "Doing It Right" is a service mark owned by "JC Penney Company" (the
> department store):
>         Serial Number   74-394848
>         Registration Number     1843928
>         retail department store services; DATE OF FIRST USE: 1993.10.31;
>         DATE OF FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 1993.10.31
> 
> (Note:  Devore Paint also has a similar service mark).
> 
> WKPP is not a registered or pending trademark.
> 
> Even if DIR/WKPP were registered marks, you would not be able to prevent us
> from using these marks in casual conversation. Imagine the problem if GM
> were able to prevent us from talking about their automobiles using their
> marks. All forms of criticism and social freedom would go out the window.
> But then, isn't that your goal? Making any conversation that isn't
> sanctioned by *you* illegal?
> 
> You might want to check your legal facts before you type vitriol, just as
> you should check your medical facts.
> 
> Are you really speaking for WKPP and DIR? Would they feel kindly about your
> claiming ownership over everything they do and say?
> 
> Karen Nakamura
> karen@gp*.co*
> 
> ps. IANAL, but had to fight to get our own marks registered, so I'm familiar
> with trademark law in the U.S.
>         GPSy owned by Nakamura, Karen  (Serial Number 75-299162;
> Registration Number     2202658 )


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