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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 19:37:46 -0500
To: <Scaleworks@ao*.co*>, kirvine@sa*.ne*, tgunther@co*.co*
From: Joel Silverstein <joelsilverstein@wo*.at*.ne*>
Subject: Re: EGYPTIAN AIR
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Kev, 

The TWA Flight 800 preliminary dives BEFORE the US Navy ship Grasp arrived
on the scene were done by Police teams. Their bottom times were limited to
15 minute no-stop limit of the USN air tables. SInce all of the Police
scuba teams are "employees" they need to follow OSHA rules. Scuba can only
be no-stop for commercial work. 

Once the USN Grasp arrived there were two types of dives done. Scuba
reconnaissance, again no-stop dives and then the "hard-hat" sur-d dives.
The sur-D dives were an average of 90 minutes "on-the-bottom" time with
deco using some in-water with most in Surface decompression chambers with
100% oxygen. 

The 275 fsw depth that Flight 990 is in will require surface supplied
heliox bounces and if extensive work needs to be done it will have to go to
saturation. 

They can't and wont do this on scuba. 

Regards, 

Joel Silverstein 


At 04:45 PM 11/2/1999 EST, Scaleworks@ao*.co* wrote:
>In a message dated 99-11-02 15:47:14 EST, kirvine@sa*.ne* writes:
>
><< 
> This is going to be a hard one. Personally , I would not dive unless
> they had some seriously good location equipment to narrow the search. 
> 
> As far as profiles, this could be done repeatedly if the bt was kept at
> about 18 minutes, and they used scooters, rotating the teams. I still do
> not see much getting done by divers like this in any reasonable amount
> of time. If they find a wreck field, then maybe.
>  >>
>
>Based on a presentation given by a Flight 800 NYPD Scuba Team member, 
>seriously good location equipment is used. The entire crash area is mapped 
>with side scan sonar, and each individual "hit" is investigated by a team. 
>Police members were not allowed to recover any wreckage on the bottom, but 
>just verify it's identity as wreckage or ocean trash. Surface supplied Navy 
>divers were then sent down to do recovery with proper evidence recovery 
>technique, being it was also an FBI investigation. In this methodical
manner, 
>I believe 95 - 98 % of the 747 was recovered. Total bottom times were
limited 
>to 25 minutes, one dive a day, 115' max depth, however, the Navy worked
round 
>the clock, weather permitting. No volunteer divers were used, or asked for.  
>Needless to say, the depth will most likely preclude
>any Police units, and rely on the Navy deep divers.
>
>Kevin 
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