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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:08:42 -0500
To: Capt JT <captjt@mi*.co*>
CC: Mat Bloedorn <mbloedorn@ya*.co*>, Wrolf Courtney <wrolf@wr*.ne*>,
     Ingemar Lundgren ,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com"
Subject: Re: The best of Dave Sutton
JT, when Genitile came down here to try to learn to cave dive, he wore
his pony in the cave. So he does not understand the dual outlet
manifold, so he does not understand our methods. Who cares? He had to be
taught buoyancy control. So what. Nobody was paying any attention and
could care less.

Sheck Exley, whom many thought to be a great one in cave diving, did as
many stupid things as Genitile. So what?  

We now know better. Anachronistic behavior is not supposed to be
emulated.

If you are explaining the pros and cons of diving safety to people, then
you are doing all you can do. However, my concern is that you are
fudging our system and that is why you get ignored. Nobody ever ignores
one of my full explanations - it is not possible. If you have it
cockeyed, that leaves holes in it and it gets discarded. You have done
that with the bottle markings .

In fact, I have not been around Genitile, but Exley I turned around to
our way of thinking on gear in a few short conversations, since he was
not stupid or a boat monkey,  got him to dive the correct gas when
diving with me, but could not get him to understand that he was Sheck
Exley, a guy who would dive anything any time to see what was there,a
guy who had nothing to prove to anyone,  and Batman was a stroke who
would still be a stroke no matter what he did, and that there was no
such thing as an ability to dive air. I told him I would personally set
his deep bottles wo he could decend at the correct rate to avoid hpns,
but he could not get by the need to prove some toughness that needed no
proving, and he held the false belief that he was "too old" and "over
the hill". He was younger than me then and now.

He knew he was going to get killed. The problem with the NE strokes is
that they do not know it, and they do not realize the carnage that their
stupidity and ignornace is wreaking on diving. This guy Genitile may not
get wacked due to having gotten over the hump, but that does not mean he
is optimizing his game. We are.

JT, just because you are a blithering idiot is no reason for us not to
"get along". Just kidding.

Capt JT wrote:


> 
> >Solo is not a great diea, but it works better with our rig. For
> >instance, how about the "poney" thing solo? Not as good as having the
> >bottle rigged properly, and this is obvious.
> 
> I am sick of this pony bottle thing , George , everyone knows that we do
> not get along , but to recount my opinion on the pony with a fact,here goes.
> I cannot stop divers from wearing it on their back , I cannot mistreat them
> on the boat if they wear it , if they get to know me they will hear my
> speech against it.
> As a fact! I doubt that there is many as good as Gary Gentile is in wreck
> diving , having made that statement , he wears the pony.But on page 41 and
> 42 in his Lusitania book two , he tells how he had put the pony in his
> mouth by mistake on a  Wilkes-Barre dive.
> He had to be saved by Billy Deans who at first did not understand the
> problem.Had he been diving solo or had deco gas in it, it would have been
> over.As 99% of my dives are solo , I must remove all possible mistakes of
> human error.It will not be on my back.
> 
> Capt. JT


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