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And Richard is a meat guy. This is not the point, the point is that one can stay fit too a very old age, and should. The time trial was a week ago - 5 and 10 K. I'll be point blank with you guys. This is not part of the WKPP, and never will be. I am getting real sick of dealing with it, and since none of you are doctors, I really do not want to hear any of it. I do not have the answers on this and neither does anyone else on our team. As in everything else, a litle BALANCE makes a lot more sense. Volker is way out one way, the veg guys other. Terry Giles is in a sport that allows drugs - that changes everything. In my opinion, none of them is correct, and the fact is it makes no difference. If you want to lose a lot of weight fast, JJ has the way, If you want to gain it, Volker's way works. If you want to be a propfessional powerlifter, see Terry. If you want my results, balance is the key, and excellent genetics. My brother who smokes , does not work out, and eats whatever he finds near him looks like me only taller and played all the same sports with ease, and if he had not wrapped his Porche around a phone pole at 100 mph, he still would be playing sports, and he still looks like he does. So what are we going to do about that? Work out and if you have any imbalances, see a doctor, or go get checked by one and then see what he says. Bottom line is that if you are having any problems with deco, thermal, breathing or other, get checked out and get professional advice. Workout and balanced diets are a known quantity, extreme measures are not. What I am doing now has nothing to do with diving, nothing to do with WKPP, as I was already in good enough diving condition a long time ago - this is not to be copied emulated, glorified , condoned, accepted or otheriwse given any legitiamte consideration. It is my own personal insanity and may in fact work against me when we start diving, who knows. It is a curiosity only, like Stones mapper , and is not necesary to get the job done. I should have just gotten a girlfriend to go wtih the Corvette and skipped the Iron Man, but you only get near 50 once. Let's move on to productive topics and leave the idiosyncracies of our totally insane dive team out of the picture. You forget why we are what we are, and as JJ points out, "why do you think these are records". I can answer that. Because we are nuts. Let's just leave that alone. The "who's nuts in what way" part is why we succeed. I don't care what JJ eats, what Volker eats, or what anyone eats. The body does what it needs to do to offset all our our stupidity for as long as it can hold out. I can attest to that. Robert M. Carmichael wrote: > > Dan, > > Richard Aho lost (by several 10th's of a second) the final national time > trail event of the year several weeks ago. He told George the whole story on > Sunday, well almost all of the story. He left out the part that it was Don > Grant that beat him for the forth year in a row. > > Richard is my pal and I will always pull for him, but you know what, Don > Grant is a Vegan. > > RMC > > --Original Message----- > From: Jarrod Jablonski [mailto:jjcave@ib*.ne*] > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 1:07 AM > To: wkpp@eg*.co*; kirvine@sa*.ne*; wkpp@eg*.co* > Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: [wkpp] Re: WKPP EOTL training regimen... > > At 02:38 PM 11/1/99 -0500, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote: > The protein can NOT be plant protein. Let me stress this another way. > >> If you are ill, have a heart condition, or are really not prepared to > >> attempt to get in the BEST physical shape your genetics will allow, then > a > >> strict vegan diet could make good sense for you. If you have no such > >> handicap to push you into a vegan diet, then you will need red meat in > your > >> diet at least once or twice per day, along with chicken, turkey, > fish---one > >> or more animal based proteins making up the protein source in each meal. > <<<>> > This same trite ridiculousness again, Dan? Last time we went down this path > all I asked for was some proof, some research. Anything but ramblings. > Fortunately I have too much respect for everyone's time to get lost in a > fruitless repeat of the last uninspiring discussion. It has always seemed > odd that the heavy (pardon the pun) proponents of this stuff are frequently > overweight. I know the story because I went down that road listening to all > the stuff you are currently saying. I used to eat like you and looked quite > a bit more like you. You have been listening to Terry et al for years and > you are still having a weight problem while telling everyone what they > should eat. How about something different? I have been there and done that- > IT DID NOT WORK. Since that time I have lost about 30 useless pounds, am > happier and healthier than ever and have more energy than I know what to do > with. People are free to eat as they please but when you drag out this > foolishness you leave people feeling they don't have any options save the > same tired solutions that leave them fighting with their weight all the > time or at best risking disease or kidney failure following the latest > brilliant diet craze proposals. New info please- the status quo is getting > so very old. > > Take care all, > JJ > > Jarrod Jablonski > > President Global Underwater Explorers www.gue.com > 904.454.0820 800.762.3483 > Redefining The Future Of Diving Education > > CEO Extreme Exposure www.extreme-exposure.com > 904.454.0811 800.378.7820 > Built By Explorers For The Explorer In You > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Woodville Karst Plain Project. Subscription and removal requests to > clw5232@ga*.ac*.fs*.ed*. > > -- Talk to your group with your own voice! > -- http://www.egroups.com/VoiceChatPage?listName=wkpp&m=1 -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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