On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote: > Then for the real "tekkies", there is the "Rebreather" list. This is a > dreamland of unrealistic stupidity unrivaled anywhere. It has all of the > very most polite people on it, and some of the biggest geeks ever. There > are sugggestions about diving on there so stupid that even the most hard > core personal preference liberal will be happy.I am banned from that > list permanently. None of the WKPP rebreather divers are on that list. Banned, banned, banned. Gosh, there seems to be a repeating theme here, doesn't there? George Irvine, dispenser of inviolate truths, gets dissed by the vast majority of ignorant list owners. Yeah, that *must* be it. I don't suppose it could be because you and your Brown Shirts feel it appropriate to ride rough-shod over the natives, who are merely content to discuss whatever the topic at hand is, could it? Oh, wait, I forgot, you can always call in your lawyer, Alton Hall, in a pinch, right? -Will (Alton, please feel free to call Stephan Mallenbaum, my retained partner at Jones, Day, here in NY, should Mr. Irvine incite you to feel particularly mouthful this morning). > There is also the Compuserve Scuba Forum which has about ten sub forums > from medical to fetish and of course, I have been permantently banned > from evey last one of them. The level of politeness there is the > highest, in inverse proportion to the information level. I can tell you > that getting kicked off of there brought tears to my eyes - of laughter. > > There are also the decompression list, which I am not on, the Cave > science list, which I am not on, the Houston Cavers list, which I am not > on, the Virginina Beach tec list ( not on ) and many,many others which I > am not on. > > I am on "cavers", and I am on "WKPP", so the strokes need to avoid those > two lists where there are no rules. > > However, I am the one and only person ever to get kicked off of > "techdiver", and even Tom Mount complained about that. They brought me > back by popular demand. The fact is that the message is what makes the > mooks look like mooks, and I think the mooks have proven that > themselves, especially this last round of idiots that showed up. > > Joel, remember the days of fake email? I sent a fake to you of Rick > Sankey threatening to kick your ass. For those of you who do not know > these two, Sankey is a marathon runner type, and Markwell is a pretty > big boy who teaches karate for "kicks". Those were some funny times on > the lists, and these guys complain now? They never saw the real insanity > ... > > Joel Markwell wrote: > > > > I've been reading and occasionally posting to Techdiver almost since its > > inception. And before that on other lists and services for nearly 12 years. > > One thing that has always been a constant is that there are always > > opinionated people on such services. SCUBA and especially Techdiving seems > > to attract that personality type. Some keep it to themselves, others feel > > compelled to share their thoughts. Sometimes that's good, sometimes not. > > > > Techdiver has always been an especially open, no-holds-barred forum for any > > and all ideas related to the subject and that is good. What is not good, in > > my opinion, is all the personality BS that flies in every direction. We > > could do with more signal on the signal-to-noise ratio. But some things > > can't be changed and I'd rather have the discourse than not, so I have hung > > in there, mostly listening, sometime questioning, occasionally contributing. > > > > But every now and then we get new guys on the block who feels compelled to > > rid us of the forces of evil on the list and spend a lot of time howling at > > the wind. threatening, cajoling and complaining. Outslamming the slammers in > > volume (in both senses of that word) and trying to speak for the "silent > > majority" who are said to be tired of the BS. > > > > What usually ends up happening is they emit a last harrumph and move on, > > tired of the noise, tired of the fights, but unwilling to stand their > > ground, often unsure of what ground they are standing on. These divers are > > like someone going to a Heavy Metal concert, complaining about the noise, > > but not content to just recognize their mistake and move on. They feel > > compelled to grab a mike and bitch at the band first like anyone in the > > audience cared. > > > > It would be OK with me if we could reduce the noise, I'm sure there are > > plenty out there who feel that way, because there's a helluva lot of signal > > here. But failing that I'll keep hanging in and filter out the static > > myself. I do have a suggestion for the whiners, though. Start your own list, > > maybe the Polite Divers List. Any takers? > > > > Later, > > > > JoeL > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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