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From: "Shimell, David (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>
To: Mark Dixon <jj@da*.co*>, Techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: RE: Jersey reel
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 04:02:09 -0700
Mark

>3)    On a long hang with the cave reel I find it best to clip the locked
off reel to my top D-ring and just >float along at 6m while neutrally
buoyant.  This takes any tension off your arm Only risk here is getting
>scooped up by a passing ship.  Lets just hope that those topside would deal
with this.

Hmm.  I used to do this but realised it was pure laziness on my part.  I
always hold my reel now, it makes it easier to discard if you need to and
allows you to deco in a horizontal attitude more easier than with a clipped
off reel where the line goes over your shoulder and could snag on your
cylinder valves.

>4)    Only times when this falls down is when the target is very deep(80m+?)
and bail out scenarios (i.e. >loss of deco or travel mix) require a return to
the shot line to ascend to staged spare gas - normally on a >detachable deco
trapeze.  This limitation clearly also applies to your jersey reel method.

Nope, the drift technique works fine for 80m stuff also - a reel with ample
capacity is required.  If you don't have this then you risk being lost.  That
is, if you can't fire your DSMB from the wreck and the current is running,
you can drift some considerable distance before you deploy your DSMB and it
surfaces.  In practice, this is not a problem at the end of your dive, as
you'll be drifting somewhere in the region of the other divers as you state.
However, if you leave early or late, then there is an issue.  Moral: always
carry a reel with sufficient line to deploy from the wreck.

David Shimell
Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*> 
Project Manager, IBM NUMA-Q, Sequent Computer Systems Limited,
Weybridge Business Park, Addlestone Road, Weybridge, Surrey, KT15 2UF, UK
registered in England and Wales under company number: 1999363, registered
office as above

-----Original Message-----
From:	Mark Dixon [SMTP:jj@da*.co*]
Sent:	Saturday, October 23, 1999 6:16 PM
To:	Techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject:	Jersey reel

I'm still not convinced about all of this Jersey reel stuff - sounds
overcomplicated to me.

1)    When diving deep mid channel wrecks in the UK we normally just bag off
using the technique stated by Sean Stevenson.  If the boat skipper
co-ordinates water entry times with bottom run times then all the bags will
hit the surface at about the same time and therefore there is no problem
following the decompressing divers.

2)    Most UK wreck divers use an auto inflate deco buoy which is a separate
piece of equipment to lift bags.  This piece of kit will not capsize and
deflate (thinking divers also carry a redundant deco buoy!).

3)    On a long hang with the cave reel I find it best to clip the locked off
reel to my top D-ring and just float along at 6m while neutrally buoyant.
This takes any tension off your arm Only risk here is getting scooped up by a
passing ship.  Lets just hope that those topside would deal with this.

4)    Only times when this falls down is when the target is very deep(80m+?)
and bail out scenarios (i.e. loss of deco or travel mix) require a return to
the shot line to ascend to staged spare gas - normally on a detachable deco
trapeze.  This limitation clearly also applies to your jersey reel method.

Just a couple of thoughts.  I am a DIR diver operating in the UK and with a
couple of amendments to reflect local cold water conditions and equipment I
have found it has greatly simplified my diving configuration (before doing my
full cave ticket with Ted Cole of WKPP I was as sceptical as hell!).

However, I agree that it is just a philosophy and that no amount of
haranguing or insults is going to make other people change their minds.  We
can see this in the UK with the recent "hoo-hah" over the Lusey 99 trip.  All
of the bile directed from this list has only served to close people's minds
even further on this side of the pond.  What was forgotten is that the people
on the Lusey 99 trip are excellent adventurous divers many of whom have
developed UK technical diving in leaps and bounds over the past few years.

We need a bit of respect for each other - at the end of the day we all dive
for fun.

Regards

Mark Dixon


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