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Will,

It disturbed me to read your speculative post regarding the cave diving
fatalities at Madison Blue. You should be able to realize that a tragedy of
this scope it too significant and sensitive for idle uninformed chatter.

Your opening caveat safety net statement "...this is now third hand, so take it
for what it's worth.", says it all and confirms my perception or your
speculative statements.  All else that follows your post is conjecture or
merely gossip and should be left out.  You have done yourself and the other
readers of this list a disservice with your unconfirmed reporting of this cave
diving tragedy.

Suggest that you stick to the facts or say nothing. Better yet, wait  for
someone that actually knows the facts to come forth.

Denis Burlage


William Smithers wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 Jbdvr@ao*.co* wrote:
>
> > does anyone have any info on the fatalities of two cave divers at madison
> > blue yesterday?
>
> Yes, although this is now third hand, so take it for what it's
> worth.  One of the guys was an aquantence of mine, and I've
> done a few cave dives with him.  He was a close friend
> of my cave partner, so I got the call early.  Apparently
> Lamar Hires did the recovery (I don't know who else).
>
> They actually did the dive on Saturday, and weren't found
> until yesterday.  They went 1800ft back (that was apparently
> the plan), and through a restriction that had a spliced line.
> Well, they passed that point and were coming back out when
> they saw that the knot had slipped, and the lines had
> come apart.  Madison is apparently high outflow, so the
> downstream (toward the exit) side of
> the line  blew a couple hundred of feet downstream, and they
> had trouble finding it.  By the time they did, gas was low,
> and they ran out of gas 800 ft from the entrance.
>
> That's a bad day.  Both were experienced cave divers.
>
> -Will
>
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