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G Turdvine wrote: >JT - your usual misunderstanding and bullshitization of the story. Deans >and the dead guy were diving AIR. The dead guy boogied on Deans as soon >as the deep air kicked in, and plummeted down the Gimbel's Hole crack or >whatever you strokes call it, unable to stop himself as he was severely >overweighted. He grabbed the huge tangle of wiring harness to try and >stop himself and merely pulled it into a giant pile down on top of >himslef. It took several dives with cable cutters to extracts his dead >stupid ass from the wreckage. Maybe you should buy the book and get someone elses version , the stories are close , but they ain't playin horseshoes.It was also a 3 man buddy team with Lou Delotto as the third one.Please give the name of the diver that saw him fall in the hole and grab the wiring to stop himself.ESP and God like feelings you use when you say you know what happen , will not make me believe your version.Is this stuff taught in that "Twisting it Right" video.I think I must have miss that part , I'll watch it again. >Bill Deans is not a dumb ass like most divers. He stopped air diving and >in fact was the first guy I know of who set up and taught helium diving >way back then. He used to issue the "Billy Deans" trimix card, and I >know some people here in Florida who got one ten years ago. He also uses >every bad example like this one to teach people not to do the stupid >things that are practiced in N.E. wreck diving. Thats funny , just 2 years ago I got a call from a Karen with the Monitor project.She was looking to get on one of my deep trips with John B.I started asking her about her experience and she told me she had just got back from taking a class with Billy Deans and he had taken her to 240 on air on the Wilkes-Barre. >Deans runs the absolute best operation I ever dove with other than my >own. PERIOD. > >What you are confusing is when Mount claims Billy Deans endorses some >nonsense that IANTD does. As far as I know, Deans is either out of IANTD >or trying to get out. > >Deans is one of the few people I will dive with no questions asked. He >is a seriously good diver, a top notch buddy in the water, a logistical >master, and as safe as it gets, not to mention a riot to hang around >with, and has probably printed out your email and is pissing on it as we >speak. Never have met ,dived , or seen Billy Deans.I have no doubt that he is everything you claim he is.I could care less if he pisses on my emails,I do it to yours all the time. >Capt Oblivious wrote: > > > > I have recently finished reading Gary Gentiles Lusitania books one and > > two.In some of the chapters he tells the history of some of the Doria > > deaths and a certain confrontation that he , Billy Deans , and John Moyer > > had with Janet Bieser .I will not repeat it on this list , but I found the > > exchange of words disturbing.Someone tell me it didn't happen! > > > > In the book it also tells how on his first trip to the Doria , Billy > > Deans had to leave his dive buddy who was tangled in cables to seek help > > and the diver ( John Ormsby )did not live.As I have seen those on this list > > pull Billy Deans name out of there pocket like a gun , and also turn around > > and say the Andea Doria is an easy dive and boast about Deans safety record > > as a dive boat operator, I bet if you would have ask Billy that day what > > he thought of the AD , his answer may have been, " Its the most dangerous > > dive I ever done".There is nothing Billy Deans could have done to save him > > , but the horror of it will last all his life I'm sure , The wreck is > > paging number 13 for the summer of 2000.Bottom line is you can't always > > blame the buddy or the Capt. and crew.The minute you put your head > > underwater , it has become unsafe. > > Comments? > > > > Capt. JT > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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