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From: <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:41:54 -0400
To: Capt Cheech and Chong <captjt@mi*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: wreckdiving bullshit was history
JT - your usual misunderstanding and bullshitization of the story. Deans
and the dead guy were diving AIR. The dead guy boogied on Deans as soon
as the deep air kicked in, and plummeted down the Gimbel's Hole crack or
whatever you strokes call it, unable to stop himself as he was severely
overweighted. He grabbed the huge tangle of wiring harness to try and
stop himself and merely pulled it into a giant pile down on top of
himslef. It took several dives with cable cutters to extracts his dead
stupid ass from the wreckage.

Bill Deans is not a dumb ass like most divers. He stopped air diving and
in fact was the first guy I know of who set up and taught helium diving
way back then. He used to issue the "Billy Deans" trimix card, and I
know some people here in Florida who got one ten years ago. He also uses
every bad example like this one to teach people not to do the stupid
things that are practiced in N.E. wreck diving.

Deans runs the absolute best operation I ever dove with other than my
own. PERIOD. 

What you are confusing is when Mount claims Billy Deans endorses some
nonsense that IANTD does. As far as I know, Deans is either out of IANTD
or trying to get out.

Deans is one of the few people I will dive with no questions asked. He
is a seriously good diver, a top notch buddy in the water, a logistical
master, and as safe as it gets, not to mention a riot to hang around
with, and has probably printed out your email and is pissing on it as we
speak.

Capt Oblivious wrote:
> 
> I have recently finished reading Gary Gentiles Lusitania books one and
> two.In some of the chapters he tells the history of some of the Doria
> deaths and a certain confrontation that he , Billy Deans , and John Moyer
> had with Janet Bieser .I will not repeat it on this list , but I found the
> exchange of words disturbing.Someone tell me it didn't happen!
> 
>   In the book it also tells how on his first trip to the Doria , Billy
> Deans had to leave his dive buddy who was tangled in cables to seek help
> and the diver ( John Ormsby )did not live.As I have seen those on this list
> pull Billy Deans name out of there pocket like a gun , and also turn around
> and say the Andea Doria is an easy dive and boast about Deans safety record
> as a dive  boat operator, I bet if you would have ask Billy that day what
> he thought of the AD , his answer may have been, " Its the most dangerous
> dive I ever done".There is nothing Billy Deans could have done to save him
> , but the horror of it will last all his life I'm sure , The wreck is
> paging number 13 for the summer of 2000.Bottom line is you can't always
> blame the buddy or the Capt. and crew.The minute you put your head
> underwater , it has become unsafe.
> Comments?
> 
> Capt. JT
> 
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