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From: "Perry Armor" <parmor@ho*.co*>
To: "'Don W.'" <donw_s11@sw*.ne*>, "'techdiver'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Save me...
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 17:53:07 -0700
About 6 years ago, I did a dive to 170' on a wreck off Catalina Island.  It
took me almost two minutes to figure out that in order to run the reel, I
had to loosen the T-nut that held the spool down.  Real smart. It ranked
right up there with the rest of the dive:  No buddy, independent doubles,
and a Zeagle "Tech" (yeah, right...) BC...  Duh.

	Perry "I got smarter" Armor

-----Original Message-----
From: Don W. [mailto:donw_s11@sw*.ne*]
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 12:59 AM
To: techdiver
Subject: Save me...


Okay... so maybe I'm just getting bored with the latest threads on
converting the US to metric units... or not.

Tom Mount (IANTD) says he's personally comfortable to 170 feet on
air.  George Irvine says you're stupid to go deeper than 130 feet on
air and probably shouldn't go _that_ deep.  Numerous people have died
trying to push the SCUBA record of deep air to 500 feet or so.

Question for all of you...

What unexplainable stupid behavior have you seen from your
dive partners diving between 80 and 170 feet (on air) that would
indicate that they were seriously f____ed and didn't know it?

Where are some good chamber studies with less subjective results
than a binary win/loss chess game indicating the progressive loss
of mental function at high nitrogen partial pressures?

Where are some good chamber studies which eliminate the nitrogen
and study the progressive loss of mental function at high oxygen
partial pressures?

The questions are clear, and I challenge all interested academics
to produce the citations, or think seriously of the simple indicated
experiments...

Why does the issue of impairment due to high nitrogen or oxygen
partial pressures continue to be an item of debate within the
technical diving community?

Hope this generates some good discussion, and either gets someone
to cite some papers, or do some chamber experiments and write them.

regards,

Don W.
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