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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: "Mailing Tech Diver List (E-mail)" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Save me...
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:12:29 -0400
Hi Don,

Don't have any data on the subject.  I think the raging debate you'll hear
from the deep air people is that everyone is different.  Like some people
can cut corners on deco tables and not get bent while others can follow
conservative tables and get bent (you know, that old unearned hit
thing...:-)).

Personally I do believe that on different days a persons tolerance for HP
nitrogen will change, same with deco.  It's kind of like playing Russian
roulette.  One day you can do 170 the next day you can't.  The roulette part
is not having a problem when you can't tolerate nitrogen at 170 EAD......

Art.


		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Don W. [mailto:donw_s11@sw*.ne*]
		Sent:	Monday, October 11, 1999 3:59 AM
		To:	techdiver
		Subject:	Save me...

		Okay... so maybe I'm just getting bored with the latest
threads on
		converting the US to metric units... or not.

		Tom Mount (IANTD) says he's personally comfortable to 170
feet on
		air.  George Irvine says you're stupid to go deeper than 130
feet on
		air and probably shouldn't go _that_ deep.  Numerous people
have died
		trying to push the SCUBA record of deep air to 500 feet or
so.

		Question for all of you...

		What unexplainable stupid behavior have you seen from your
		dive partners diving between 80 and 170 feet (on air) that
would
		indicate that they were seriously f____ed and didn't know
it?

		Where are some good chamber studies with less subjective
results
		than a binary win/loss chess game indicating the progressive
loss
		of mental function at high nitrogen partial pressures?

		Where are some good chamber studies which eliminate the
nitrogen
		and study the progressive loss of mental function at high
oxygen
		partial pressures?

		The questions are clear, and I challenge all interested
academics
		to produce the citations, or think seriously of the simple
indicated
		experiments...

		Why does the issue of impairment due to high nitrogen or
oxygen
		partial pressures continue to be an item of debate within
the
		technical diving community?

		Hope this generates some good discussion, and either gets
someone
		to cite some papers, or do some chamber experiments and
write them.

		regards,

		Don W.
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