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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 18:31:14 +0200
From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
To: Adriaan_Haine@ce*.be*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: A question about training practices
100 dives are just not enough.  200 dives or more and previous experience with
decompression diving is what is required in my opinion as an absolute minimum.
I do
absolutely NOT think that deep air should be required as a prerequisite. Deep
air
has no place in any diving course.  Look at GUE´s course program which i think
is a
lot better.

Level1 40m  max, oxygen decompression,  prerequisite 100 dives

Level2 60m max >16% o2 Trimix ,  prerequisite minimum 200 dives.  Also a lot
more
dives in the course than the IANTD normoxic program.

What i am saying is that IANTD is to commercial and have lowered the standards
to
enable more students to take the course regardless of if it is safe or not.

The most disqualifying factor for IANTD is it´s instructors though. Most of
them are
completely useless in my opinion.  Many of them especially in Europe are the
worst i
have seen, in many cases not even qualified to dive Trimix themselves but yet
they
carry trimix instructor trainer cards.  They got this in a sort of a package
deal
when they bought the franchise from IANTD, this is what i hear from very
reliable
sources. When you have this kind of instructors how do you expect the students
to
end up?  When not even Tom Mount can follow his own standards how do you expect
his
instructors to do that?  IANTD is doomed to failure...


Adriaan_Haine@ce*.be* wrote:

> Ingemar,
>
> Why should a diver with an advanced nitrox card NOT be qualified to do
normoxic
> trimix? What would you rather have, that he was a deep air diver first?
(Joke! )
>
> I suppose 100 dives is a bit on the slim side. But some divers learn more in
100
> dives than other learn in 500 or a thousand.
>
> At the end of the day, perhaps the trainee should do a training dive (or
dives),
> accompanied by the instructor, so that the instructor can assess the trainees
> readiness for any kind of 'serious' technical diving.
>
> Does the IANTD provide its instructors with the possibility to 'SAY NO' to
> divers wanting to do a course, after they failed to perform on a check dive?
>
> Does GUE?
>
> NPNG
>
> Ingemar wrote:
>
> It says 100 dives and a adv nitrox card to be specific.  Ridiculous.
>
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