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4's over drive the bulb and the shape is a big problem. Also some of them have a switch, which always spooks me to turn on at depth. They work great if you never turn them on deep or have to use them other than to fix a flat tire. Now that the real thing is available, I see no reason to compromise. Stuart Darke wrote: > > Thanks George > I didn't know there was an option to the Pelican Specials they > certainly make me nervous with their Intermittent operation > I think ill have to order some of the BM Specials > > For the record what do you think of the SL4`s I personally think just the > shape of them makes them a pain in the date > > Stu > > -----Original Message----- > From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*] > Sent: Saturday, 25 September 1999 3:53 > To: Shimell, David (shimell) > Cc: Kuiper, Greg; 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' > Subject: Re: Backup lights > > David, it used to be that we culd not buy a backup light that met all of > our requirements, ao we all tried everything. The Oceanics were great, > but they stopped making them because they were too expensive, and the > nickel rockets will not spend 70 bucks for a backup light ( read are too > stupid to realize that it may be their life that they would not spend > anohter 40 bucks to save). > > Now we have EE making the lights perfectly, so there is no excuse not to > have the right equipment. > > Shimell, David (shimell) wrote: > > > > George > > > > Many years ago, I found the Pelican lights and bought one - it worked fine > > right up to the time when it leaked. Pelican are great, they replaced it > > free of charge. The replacement still rests in its original packing, > > unopened. I now have two Barry Miller lights which, thankfully, I have > only > > used in drills. Work they did, more of a light sabre than a light, they > cut > > through the darkness with a near pencil-like beam. > > > > It really amazes me how stupid I must have been! > > > > David Shimell > > Project Manager, Sequent Computer Systems Ltd., Weybridge, UK. > > Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kirvine@sa*.ne* [SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*] > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 2:37 PM > > To: Kuiper, Greg > > Cc: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' > > Subject: Re: Backup lights > > > > Greg, there is nobody currently in the WKPP who uses this (Pelican) > > light. Besides the obvious that the attachment point is all wrong, and > > that they leak most dives, and that we had nothing but trouble with them > > including the scratching and weakening of the glass, intermittant on and > > off, turning on at depth almost evey dive by themselves and that you can > > put the correct bulb in any light, we have our own made by Barry to our > > exact specs, so why would we want to jury rig a proven pain in the ass? > > > > Barry's light has the correct dimensions, attachemnts,length and width > > braised springs, strips and contacts, foolproof on and off twist under > > pressure at depth, perfect reflector and focus and exact match of > > battery and bulb, the corect thread size and glide for operation only > > when it is ooperatied, and not by itself, etc, etc, etc.. > > > > Again, Greg, the reason we make our own lihgt? You figure it out. > > > > The fact is that I know what it is like to come out from hell on a > > backup light, and I insist that team members use the correct light for > > several very good reasons. People who don't get this don't dive with us > > ... Period. > > > > My information is based on experinece that you do not have, that WKPP > > support and setup divers do not have, and that is based my ability to > > see the whole picture. > > > > When your primary fails and you are on a backup, it must work, it must > > last, and it must focus to where you can see the line without being IN > > the line while scootering - the lines are generally in deeper water, the > > vis in generally not good, and when you lose your light and have to > > concentrate on a deeper line riding close you are slowed way down, use > > more gas, use more light, use more time, etc. > > > > I am real sick of amateur bullshit opinions whether they come from > > within the WKPP or without. The fact is we make out own light for a very > > good reason, and your opinion this matter is uttery worthless, as is > > that of whomever in the WKPP told you this. > > > > You know , Greg, I don't not just make up crap for the hell of it - I > > know what I am talking about, and have the track record ot prove it. > > > > I don't buy cheap ass bullshit gear for life support, and only a stroke > > would do so. I have eliminated a whole slew of strokes from the WKPP > > this year for just such inconsiderate , short sighted , self-deluded > > bullshit, and you will not find any current members who do anything > > differnently that the way we have asked that it be done. The usdct > > specializes in personal prefrence , not the WKPP. > > > > Kuiper, Greg wrote: > > > > > > List, > > > I called Pelican products and they informed me that the Super Sabre > > > light bulb is not overvolted. According to Pelican the bulb has a 4.5 > > > volt rating and uses 3 C cell 1.5 volt batteries. My friend emailed > > > me with a website that has the lights for $22.70 ea. So far I have > > > heard totally conflicting stories on this light. Many friends of > > > Barry Miller tell me the light is a piece of shit while some WKPP and > > > other well known divers tell me they have been using the light for > > > years and rate it as excellent. You can't beat the price and I have > > > had a great experience with the light so far. If you want to check > > > out the specs. go to: > > > > > > http://www.meiresearch.com/worklights/pelican/pelw2000...shtml > > > > > > Dive safe, > > > Greg Kuiper > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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