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Greetings, Does any one have a web site address for Barry Miller? Thanks in advance. Mark. --- kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote: > 4's over drive the bulb and the shape is a big > problem. Also some of > them have a switch, which always spooks me to turn > on at depth. They > work great if you never turn them on deep or have to > use them other than > to fix a flat tire. > > Now that the real thing is available, I see no > reason to compromise. > > > > Stuart Darke wrote: > > > > Thanks George > > I didn't know there was an option to the > Pelican Specials they > > certainly make me nervous with their Intermittent > operation > > I think ill have to order some of the BM Specials > > > > For the record what do you think of the SL4`s I > personally think just the > > shape of them makes them a pain in the date > > > > Stu > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kirvine@sa*.ne* > [mailto:kirvine@sa*.ne*] > > Sent: Saturday, 25 September 1999 3:53 > > To: Shimell, David (shimell) > > Cc: Kuiper, Greg; 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' > > Subject: Re: Backup lights > > > > David, it used to be that we culd not buy a backup > light that met all of > > our requirements, ao we all tried everything. The > Oceanics were great, > > but they stopped making them because they were too > expensive, and the > > nickel rockets will not spend 70 bucks for a > backup light ( read are too > > stupid to realize that it may be their life that > they would not spend > > anohter 40 bucks to save). > > > > Now we have EE making the lights perfectly, so > there is no excuse not to > > have the right equipment. > > > > Shimell, David (shimell) wrote: > > > > > > George > > > > > > Many years ago, I found the Pelican lights and > bought one - it worked fine > > > right up to the time when it leaked. Pelican > are great, they replaced it > > > free of charge. The replacement still rests in > its original packing, > > > unopened. I now have two Barry Miller lights > which, thankfully, I have > > only > > > used in drills. Work they did, more of a light > sabre than a light, they > > cut > > > through the darkness with a near pencil-like > beam. > > > > > > It really amazes me how stupid I must have been! > > > > > > David Shimell > > > Project Manager, Sequent Computer Systems Ltd., > Weybridge, UK. > > > Email: shimell@se*.co* > <mailto:shimell@se*.co*> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: kirvine@sa*.ne* > [SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*] > > > Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 2:37 PM > > > To: Kuiper, Greg > > > Cc: 'techdiver@aquanaut.com' > > > Subject: Re: Backup lights > > > > > > Greg, there is nobody currently in the WKPP who > uses this (Pelican) > > > light. Besides the obvious that the attachment > point is all wrong, and > > > that they leak most dives, and that we had > nothing but trouble with them > > > including the scratching and weakening of the > glass, intermittant on and > > > off, turning on at depth almost evey dive by > themselves and that you can > > > put the correct bulb in any light, we have our > own made by Barry to our > > > exact specs, so why would we want to jury rig a > proven pain in the ass? > > > > > > Barry's light has the correct dimensions, > attachemnts,length and width > > > braised springs, strips and contacts, foolproof > on and off twist under > > > pressure at depth, perfect reflector and focus > and exact match of > > > battery and bulb, the corect thread size and > glide for operation only > > > when it is ooperatied, and not by itself, etc, > etc, etc.. > > > > > > Again, Greg, the reason we make our own lihgt? > You figure it out. > > > > > > The fact is that I know what it is like to come > out from hell on a > > > backup light, and I insist that team members use > the correct light for > > > several very good reasons. People who don't get > this don't dive with us > > > ... Period. > > > > > > My information is based on experinece that you > do not have, that WKPP > > > support and setup divers do not have, and that > is based my ability to > > > see the whole picture. > > > > > > When your primary fails and you are on a backup, > it must work, it must > > > last, and it must focus to where you can see the > line without being IN > > > the line while scootering - the lines are > generally in deeper water, the > > > vis in generally not good, and when you lose > your light and have to > > > concentrate on a deeper line riding close you > are slowed way down, use > > > more gas, use more light, use more time, etc. > > > > > > I am real sick of amateur bullshit opinions > whether they come from > > > within the WKPP or without. The fact is we make > out own light for a very > > > good reason, and your opinion this matter is > uttery worthless, as is > > > that of whomever in the WKPP told you this. > > > > > > You know , Greg, I don't not just make up crap > for the hell of it - I > > > know what I am talking about, and have the track > record ot prove it. > > > > > > I don't buy cheap ass bullshit gear for life > support, and only a stroke > > > would do so. I have eliminated a whole slew of > strokes from the WKPP > > > this year for just such inconsiderate , short > sighted , self-deluded > > > bullshit, and you will not find any current > members who do anything > > > differnently that the way we have asked that it > be done. The usdct > > > specializes in personal prefrence , not the > WKPP. > > > > > > Kuiper, Greg wrote: > > > > > > > > List, > > > > I called Pelican products and they informed me > that the Super Sabre > > > > light bulb is not overvolted. According to > Pelican the bulb has a 4.5 > > > > volt rating and uses 3 C cell 1.5 volt > batteries. My friend emailed > > > > me with a website that has the lights for > $22.70 ea. So far I have > > > > heard totally conflicting stories on this > light. Many friends of > > > > Barry Miller tell me the light is a piece of > shit while some WKPP and > > > > other well known divers tell me they have been > using the light for > > > > years and rate it as excellent. You can't > beat the price and I have > > > > had a great experience with the light so far. > If you want to check > > > > out the specs. go to: > > > > > > > > > http://www.meiresearch.com/worklights/pelican/pelw2000...shtml > > > > > > > > Dive safe, > > > > Greg Kuiper > > > > > > -- > > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > > > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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