David, it used to be that we culd not buy a backup light that met all of
our requirements, ao we all tried everything. The Oceanics were great,
but they stopped making them because they were too expensive, and the
nickel rockets will not spend 70 bucks for a backup light ( read are too
stupid to realize that it may be their life that they would not spend
anohter 40 bucks to save).

Now we have EE making the lights perfectly, so there is no excuse not to
have the right equipment.

Shimell, David (shimell) wrote:
> 
> George
> 
> Many years ago, I found the Pelican lights and bought one - it worked fine
> right up to the time when it leaked.  Pelican are great, they replaced it
> free of charge.  The replacement still rests in its original packing,
> unopened.  I now have two Barry Miller lights which, thankfully, I have only
> used in drills. Work they did, more of a light sabre than a light, they cut
> through the darkness with a near pencil-like beam.
> 
> It really amazes me how stupid I must have been!
> 
> David Shimell
> Project Manager, Sequent Computer Systems Ltd., Weybridge, UK.
> Email: shimell@se*.co* <mailto:shimell@se*.co*>
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   kirvine@sa*.ne* [SMTP:kirvine@sa*.ne*]
> Sent:   Thursday, September 23, 1999 2:37 PM
> To:     Kuiper, Greg
> Cc:     'techdiver@aquanaut.com'
> Subject:        Re: Backup lights
> 
> Greg, there is nobody currently in the WKPP who uses this (Pelican)
> light. Besides the obvious that the attachment point is all wrong, and
> that they leak most dives, and that we had nothing but trouble with them
> including the scratching and weakening of the glass, intermittant on and
> off, turning on at depth almost evey dive by themselves and that you can
> put the correct bulb in any light, we have our own made by Barry to our
> exact specs, so why would we want to jury rig a proven pain in the ass?
> 
> Barry's light has the correct dimensions, attachemnts,length and width
> braised springs, strips and contacts, foolproof on and off twist under
> pressure at depth, perfect reflector and focus and exact match of
> battery and bulb, the corect thread size and glide for operation only
> when it is ooperatied, and not by itself, etc, etc, etc..
> 
> Again, Greg, the reason we make our own lihgt? You figure it out.
> 
> The fact is that I know what it is like to come out from hell on a
> backup light, and I insist that team members use the correct light for
> several very good reasons. People who don't get this don't dive with us
> ... Period.
> 
> My information is based on experinece that you do not have, that WKPP
> support and setup divers do not have, and that is based my ability to
> see the whole picture.
> 
> When your primary fails and you are on a backup, it must work, it must
> last, and it must focus to where you can see the line without being IN
> the line while scootering - the lines are generally in deeper water, the
> vis in generally not good, and when you lose your light and have to
> concentrate on a deeper line riding close you are slowed way down, use
> more gas, use more light, use more time, etc.
> 
> I am real sick of amateur bullshit opinions whether they come from
> within the WKPP or without. The fact is we make out own light for a very
> good reason, and your opinion this matter is uttery worthless, as is
> that of whomever in the WKPP told you this.
> 
> You know , Greg, I don't not just make up crap for the hell of it - I
> know what I am talking about, and have the track record ot prove it.
> 
> I don't buy cheap ass bullshit gear for life support, and only a stroke
> would do so. I have eliminated a whole slew of strokes from the WKPP
> this year for just such inconsiderate , short sighted , self-deluded
> bullshit, and you will not find any current members who do anything
> differnently that the way we have asked that it be done. The usdct
> specializes in personal prefrence , not the WKPP.
> 
> Kuiper, Greg wrote:
> >
> > List,
> > I called Pelican products and they informed me that the Super Sabre
> > light bulb is not overvolted.  According to Pelican the bulb has a 4.5
> > volt rating and uses 3 C cell 1.5 volt batteries.  My friend emailed
> > me with a website that has the lights for $22.70 ea.  So far I have
> > heard totally conflicting stories on this light.  Many friends of
> > Barry Miller tell me the light is a piece of shit while some WKPP and
> > other well known divers tell me they have been using the light for
> > years and rate it as excellent.  You can't beat the price and I have
> > had a great experience with the light so far.  If you want to check
> > out the specs. go to:
> >
> > http://www.meiresearch.com/worklights/pelican/pelw2000...shtml
> >
> > Dive safe,
> > Greg Kuiper
> 
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