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Innes, are you the one who put out the "cave diving scum ass" message? Are you the one who says John Grogan is a "joke"? Let's get back to the facts: the fact is that your buddies have publicly displayed some of the most dangerous stupidity ever posted to the diving internet, and what they actually represent is the cumulative ignorance of strokes like yourself, and what appears to be the case is that upon closer inspection, the key "players" are exactly the types of low lifes that one would expect to see attached to a mess like what was diplayed. In addition, after presenting yourself as an asshole of brobdignagian proporptions, you then expect me to take you seriously. This will not happen. Let me rephrase my private message to you, hypocrite, so that all may clearly see my intentions: WE ALL NEED IDIOTS LIKE YOU TO SERVE AS POWERS OF EXAMPLE, but we do not need displays of drooling ignorance to go uncorrected in the most lurid fashion possible, my specialty. For this, and the entainment value of dealing with a dickless chamelion like yourself, we all thank you. innes@di*.pi*.co* wrote: > > Such tiresome bullshit. > > You must have been 'under the influence' when you penned the below. > > How could anyone in your position be so narrow-minded? > > It beggers belief. > > Innes > > >Two things - you started it, and you have nothing I want. I just enjoy > >hammering idiots like you when you stick your ignorant heads up. I have > >no delusions that you could ever catch up to the point where you could > >learn from me, and if you did, that would just deprive me of one more > >stroke to entertain myself with. > > > >I will just wait unitl you try to justify some of your ignornance, and > >"debate" that with reality in as condecending a manner as you and your > >friends came after the others with, only I will make you look like the > >idiot that you so obviously are, beyond a shadow of even your own doubt > >- my knoweldge base is just a tad beyond yours, as in light years. By > >the way, some of these jerks you associate with ( I cc'd this asshole > >above) are really out there in never never land. The denial of reality > >with all of you is astounding - you just can't face the facts. One of > >your dumb fuck buddies just tried to tell me that Bill Stone has a great > >safety record - how about three deaths and about ten accidents, all lied > >about and all a direct result of unsafe practices . > > > >I really do not want to know any of you - rude is nothing compared to > >deluded, and you guys are just plain deluded. I also don't want to hear > >about Kevin Gurr, about what certifications you guys has "achieved", > >what you think is right that is so obvoiusly stupid, and any other > >regurtition of Tom Mouths' IANTD bullshit or any other rabbits that you > >have pulled out of your hats when in fact all of you are alive and > >unbent by the Grace of God only - you have no idea how wrong all of you > >are on evey last little tiny thing. > > > > > >innes@di*.pi*.co* wrote: > >> > >> When you cease being rude, I will engage you in debate. > >> > >> I do not doubt we could both learn from the experience. > >> > >> Innes > >> > >> At 03:26 PM 9/21/99 -0400, you wrote: > >> >Innes, I see you are on your best behavior now. "Stroke" in this case is > >> >hardly "abusive", it could be construed as a compliment in the case of > >> >your buddies on the web site. > >> > > >> >There are no "bariers" here - you and your stroke buddies provided us > >> >with some first class entertainment. > >> > > >> >On the other hand, until you can tell me why any of the crap these > >> >people are doing makes any sense, and how our methods are not "right", I > >> >am not going to take you seriously. In fact, until you can make a case > >> >for ANY of the things you are doing, I am not interested in your > >> >opinion. > >> > > >> > > >> >innes@di*.pi*.co* wrote: > >> >> > >> >> You miss the point pal..... > >> >> > >> >> I dont doubt that we could agree on a great deal about the goings-on the > >> >> Lusitania website. I know that several members of the party are > embarassed > >> >> by some of its content. > >> >> > >> >> What I am saying is that the likes of Cobb would be better to address > >these > >> >> issues in a constructive and factual manner. They do thier cause no > >service > >> >> by alienating people with fanatical and abusive rhetoric. I was > angered by > >> >> this man rudely and offensively abusing some of my friends. He may have > >had > >> >> some good ideas to share - but who is going to listen to him now? > >> >> > >> >> We can all learn from each other. > >> >> > >> >> Its just sad when the barriers go up, because the point has already lost > >> >> its merits. > >> >> > >> >> Innes > >> >> > >> >> PS - I am told that 'stroke' is a term of abuse. Why perpetuate this > >> >> continuing antagonism? What is the point? Where is the constuctive > >dialogue? > >> >> > >> >> At 07:24 PM 9/20/99 -0400, kirvine@sa*.ne* wrote: > >> >> >Show me where anything they are doing makes any sense, where anything I > >> >> >am saying does not, and I will fly over and kiss your ass next week. I > >> >> >already have a ticket good for one year. You make the case, Innes, and I > >> >> >will publicly kiss your stroke ass. This is a guarantee. I am dead > >> >> >serious. > >> >> > > >> >> >I thing that wegbsite is one of the worst examples I have ever seen of > >> >> >dangerous stupidity, and I will be glad to go over each point with you > >> >> >piece by piece. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >innes@di*.pi*.co* wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> You might have noticed that I am not actually ON the Lusitania > >website. I > >> >> >> dived it in 1995....... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> My 'rant' was about the zealous way some quarters of this sport behave > >> >> >> toward their peers.. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT > >> >> >> > >> >> >> NO ONE IS TOTALLY RIGHT > >> >> >> > >> >> >> PEOPLE LEARN THROUGHOUT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES > >> >> >> > >> >> >> LIGHTEN-UP GEORGE....... > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Innes > >> >> >> > >> >> >> At 07:58 AM 9/18/99 -0400, you wrote: > >> >> >> >Innes, you are not our "peer", you are a dangerous, embarassing > >stroke. > >> >> >> >On your web site are some of the worst examples of idiocy I have ever > >> >> >> >seen, like oxygen ponied to sets behind the diver - really stupid, > >> >> >> >braggadocio about "deep air diving" on wrecks in the UK - expecially > >> >> >> >stupid, and revealing discussions of what dive courses you and your > >band > >> >> >> >of dillatante clowns have been taking , a real laugh. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Too many people see examples like this, read the slop you put out ( > >many > >> >> >> >fine examples of which are quoted on this list), and not only get the > >> >> >> >wrong idea, they unititiated get killed emulating this crap. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >There is no reason to treat you other than as the bungee jumping half > >> >> >> >wit that you have proven you are. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >By the way, idiot, Cobb is not a "cave diver" he is a wreck > diver, and > >> >> >> >any of us who have an interest in seeing this sport progress from > what > >> >> >> >you are doing to a legitimate and accepted endeavor will have the > same > >> >> >> >reaction to your display of diving cretanism. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >In other words, those of us who know better will not tolerate jerks > >like > >> >> >> >you trying to ruin it for everyone, nor wil we sit by and watch the > >> >> >> >usual suspects line their pockets with money at teh excpense of human > >> >> >> >life. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >Instead of putting out foul-mouthed crap on here, why don't you > >> >> >> >entertain us all with the logic of opnied oxygen, bondage wings, > >> >> >> >bullshit qgasses, stroke rigs and gear, and deep air, and prove me > >right > >> >> >> >once again. Go ahead, tell us why we this is ok. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >innes@di*.pi*.co* wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> You know.. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> The Florida caving set continue to irritate everybody in techical > >> >diving. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> I wish all of this stupidity would end. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> If I or any of my friends are insulted by the likes of Cobb - we > >will > >> >> >> >> defend ourselves. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Unless you noticed - there are many different styles and techniques > >> >> in tek > >> >> >> >> diving. This is one of the aspects of the sport which makes it so > >> >great. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> How about being a little human?? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Innes - no personal axe to grind. Just tired of being insulted > >by my > >> >> >peers. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > Listen, Dickweed, after that display of public stupidy on your > >web > >> >> >> page, I > >> >> >> >> >can not believe you then get on here and use foul language, you > >cock > >> >> >> sucker. > >> >> >> >> >This is not allwoed on techdiver. > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >innes@di*.pi*.co* wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >Go fuck yourself - cave diving scum asshole. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Some of these divers are best you will find anywhere. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Shove your DIR up your pond-life ass and take all your other > >> >stupid > >> >> >> >> >> >expressions with you. > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >> >Innes McCartney - British and proud of it > >> >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> >-- > >> >> >> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >> >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >> >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >> `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >> >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >> >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >-- > >> >> >> >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> >> >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> >> > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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